Re: OntoLex@Wikipedia

Dear all,

the OntoLex page is now live *and approved*:  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OntoLex. Feel free to extend and translate  
;) Thanks to all for the additional pointers. Special thanks to Ilan for  
running Kernerman Dictionary News and for  reporting on OntoLex several  
times in this context. In the end, this was decisive  
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:1292simon#OntoLex_page), because  
the editors required demonstration of relevance by "news articles". I  
guess this was by mistake on their side anyway (see  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#News_organizations  
vs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Scholarship),  
but thanks to KDN, we have something they did accept.

Best,
Christian

Am .12.2019, 16:44 Uhr, schrieb Christian Chiarcos  
<christian.chiarcos@web.de>:

> Hi John, dear all,
>
> thank you, added to the OntoLex draft (now under   
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:OntoLex) and resubmitted. (Can be  
> further edited.)
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
> Am .12.2019, 09:09 Uhr, schrieb John P. McCrae <john@mccr.ae>:
>
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> Here are some good links:
>>
>> A couple of books that reference the model:
>> https://books.google.at/books?id=ej5qDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=%22ontolex+lemon%22&source=bl&ots=uxVR->>dcazZ&sig=ACfU3U10WV53UlTR1lLBJp0tIGGsQoCxpw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbwJrfz6rmAhWdURUIHbqPBTM4ChDoATAIegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=>>%22ontolex%20lemon%22&f=false
>> https://books.google.at/books?id=ahWZDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA2&lpg=PA2&dq=%22ontolex+lemon>>%22&source=bl&ots=gN4uqWlFW1&sig=ACfU3U2m5izzYu6uo7G4qMbTr584iJEFAw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjR7uHmz6rmAhU6XRUIHQBgByc4FBDoATAIegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=>>%22ontolex%20lemon%22&f=false
>>
>> Press releases:
>> https://www.clarin.eu/blog/clarin-it-presents-lexo-where-lexicography-meets-semantic-web
>> https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/lexidma/charter.php
>> http://aims.fao.org/activity/blog/version-402-vocbench-was-released-august-2018
>>
>> European Technical Specification:
>> https://ec.europa.eu/isa2/sites/isa/files/pmki.wp2_.d2.3_v1.0.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 at 21:39, Christian Chiarcos  
>> <christian.chiarcos@web.de> wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> has been reviewed, no complaints about spam or copyright anymore, just  
>>> about relevance, hence rejected. Summary:
>>>
>>> This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources.  
>>> Reliable sources are required so that information can >>>be verified.  
>>> If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for  
>>> beginners and Citing sources.
>>> This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies  
>>> for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not >>>show significant  
>>> coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published,  
>>> reliable, secondary sources that >>>are independent of the subject.  
>>> Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria  
>>> should be added >>>(see technical help and learn about mistakes to  
>>> avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist,  
>>> the >>>subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
>>> The comment the reviewer left was:
>>> Are there some news articles that suggest this is notable beyond W3C?
>>> I guess we can work that out more easily than the earlier complaints.  
>>> Not exactly wrt. "news articles" in any strict sense of the word, but  
>>> with respect >>>to coverage in scientific communication. @Everyone:  
>>> Please add your favorite papers (own or other) on OntoLex to the draft  
>>> page (https://>>>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chiarcos/OntoLex). I guess  
>>> everybody can edit this.
>>>
>>> Wrt. news articles: Have there been any press releases on Pret-a-LLOD,  
>>> Nexus Linguarum or other projects that mention OntoLex? This would be  
>>> the >>>closest thing to a "news article" I can think of.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> Am .12.2019, 02:18 Uhr, schrieb Christian Chiarcos  
>>> <christian.chiarcos@web.de>:
>>>
>>>> Am .12.2019, 21:13 Uhr, schrieb Manuel Fiorelli  
>>>> <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Christian
>>>>>
>>>>> When I tried to access the article, Wikipedia told that it was  
>>>>> deleted recently.
>>>>
>>>> G11 ("spam"): We had that problem with creating a LLOD page, as well.  
>>>> But back then, we got a discussion, at least.
>>>> G12 ("copyright"): The copyright infringement pertains to the  
>>>> OntoLex-core diagram. I put in the file documentation that this is a  
>>>> trivial visualization >>>>of commonly available information (it is a  
>>>> conventional class diagram, in the end), and used the corresponding  
>>>> tag but that wasn't convincing, it >>>>seems.
>>>>
>>>> A revision without details on the W3C CG, without the diagram and  
>>>> without any quotes now under   
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chiarcos/>>>>OntoLex. Submitted  
>>>> for revision by a Wikipedia editor. May take 4 months, but can be  
>>>> edited until then.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it would help if people express the need for such a page:  
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the message reporting on the deletion, I understood that  
>>>>> it was motives by a combination of two issues: promotional nature of  
>>>>> the >>>>>article and inclusion of copyrighted work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what we should do to solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Manuel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il ven 6 dic 2019, 19:56 Christian Chiarcos  
>>>>> <christian.chiarcos@web.de> ha scritto:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OntoLex. Please check  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> improve!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW: Copyright of the OntoLex-Lemon core diagram seems to be  
>>>>>> restricted. Please
>>>>>> confirm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>> --Christian Chiarcos
>>>>>> Applied Computational Linguistics
>>>>>> Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universität Frankfurt a. M.
>>>>>> 60054 Frankfurt am Main, Germany
>>>>>>
>>>>>> office: Robert-Mayer-Str. 10, #401b
>>>>>> mail: chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
>>>>>> web: http://acoli.cs.uni-frankfurt.de
>>>>>> tel: +49-(0)69-798-22463
>>>>>> fax: +49-(0)69-798-28931
>>>>
>>>> Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 21:13 Uhr schrieb Manuel Fiorelli  
>>>> <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Dear Christian
>>>>>
>>>>> When I tried to access the article, Wikipedia told that it was  
>>>>> deleted recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the message reporting on the deletion, I understood that  
>>>>> it was motives by a combination of two issues: promotional nature of  
>>>>> the >>>>>article and inclusion of copyrighted work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what we should do to solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Manuel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il ven 6 dic 2019, 19:56 Christian Chiarcos  
>>>>> <christian.chiarcos@web.de> ha scritto:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OntoLex. Please check  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> improve!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW: Copyright of the OntoLex-Lemon core diagram seems to be  
>>>>>> restricted. Please
>>>>>> confirm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>> --Christian Chiarcos
>>>>>> Applied Computational Linguistics
>>>>>> Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universität Frankfurt a. M.
>>>>>> 60054 Frankfurt am Main, Germany
>>>>>>
>>>>>> office: Robert-Mayer-Str. 10, #401b
>>>>>> mail: chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
>>>>>> web: http://acoli.cs.uni-frankfurt.de
>>>>>> tel: +49-(0)69-798-22463
>>>>>> fax: +49-(0)69-798-28931
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>



-- 
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Applied Computational Linguistics
Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universität Frankfurt a. M.
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