RE: Remidner: Ontolex Teleconference today(5th of February), 13:00 - 14:00 CET

Dear all,

by first, a big hi from Manuel and me since we have been quite off list (but we have been lurking it :-) ) since this second development iteration.

Since there’s a request for future evolutions, we would like to mention a couple of items:

* evolution of Lime to cover new modules in ontolex. We are obviously referring to the work on the lexicographic module. These aspects of metadata in Lime is something we already wanted to include yet from the first OntoLex iteration. At the time, however, the data model was missing these aspects and thus it made no sense to address them as metadata only.
* assessment of the specifications (we found some idiosyncrasies in the modeling of the lexical nets, plus other trivial things). This would be very important to us as we are developing an OntoLex editor within VocBench [1] and it is fundamental to assess best practices.

Cheers,

Manuel and Armando

P.S: needless to say, we are happy to see John co-chairing the group!

[1] http://vocbench.uniroma2.it/





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Subject: Re: Remidner: Ontolex Teleconference today(5th of February), 13:00 - 14:00 CET

Dera Philipp, all

I fully agree with Jorge's suggestions.
And certainly, with John as co-chair with you, Philipp.

Best regards
Lupe


 I El 06/03/2018 a las 20:37, Jorge Gracia escribió:
Dear Philipp, all,

A few comments:

> First, I would like to ask all of you to provide some topics that you would like to be discussed in the next telcos.

Julia and myself have been talking about possible next steps and she is sending an email apart about this.

> Second, I think that our next goal will be to produce a draft for the lexicographic module. It would be great
> if we could have something until summer, so we should thinking about starting to draft a spec of the module
> and talk about responsibilities.

Talking about responsibilities, I propose Julia to be the main editor of the ontolex-lexicography module. I volunteer as well as co-editor, but this is open of course to anyone else who thinks that can contribute  to this task substantially in the next few months.

> Last but not least: Paul Buitelaar has expressed his diesire to resign as a chair of the ontolex group. I would
> like to propose that we appoint John McCrae as a co-chair together with me. After all, he has been devoting
> a lot of time to ontolex and lead many discussions and telcos lately.

Absolutely! It makes a lot of sense having John as a chair "officially"  ;-)

Best regards,

Jorge


2018-03-04 15:09 GMT+01:00 Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de<mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>>:

Dear Christian, all,

   given the spam in the ontolex skype group, I will create a new group in the next days.

By the way, I propose we move the telco scheduled for Monday 5th (tomororw) to the 12th in order to have a bit of time to discuss per email what are the next steps and the outputs the group wants to produce in the near time.

First, I would like to ask all of you to provide some topics that you would like to be discussed in the next telcos.

During last telco you discussed the telos-example that Fahad provided. I suppose there was largely consensus on the modelling proposed by Fahad? If not, I would be happy if someone could summarize the main points of disagreemen briefly in an email to the group.

Second, I think that our next goal will be to produce a draft for the lexicographic module. It would be great if we could have something until summer, so we should thinking about starting to draft a spec of the module and talk about responsibilities.

Let me also mention that during our last telcos there was some concern with the definition of lexical entry as assuming one part of speech only. Katrien mentioned this being an issue, she mentioned the example of "blue". Possibly Katrien could provide the details on this list.

Last but not least: Paul Buitelaar has expressed his diesire to resign as a chair of the ontolex group. I would like to propose that we appoint John McCrae as a co-chair together with me. After all, he has been devoting a lot of time to ontolex and lead many discussions and telcos lately.

If others want to propose additional chairs, please do so. There is no restriction on there being three chairs only. I assume that UPM will be strongly involved in specifying the lexicographic module, so I would kindly invite UPM to propose someone.

The next telco will be on the 12th of March, 13:00 CET. I will send the agenda once I have received suggestions for topics.

Kind regards,

Philipp.

Am 03.03.18 um 13:33 schrieb Christian Chiarcos:
Dear all,

as we get increasingly spammed on Skype, I would leave the group call there. Can I suggest to create a new group and ask you to invite me there, again?

Thanks,
Christian

Am .02.2018, 07:26 Uhr, schrieb Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de><mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>:


Dear Julia, all,

 thanks for sharing the draft of the telos example for today's telco.

I am currently attending a conference and I will not be able to attend the telco today.

John: could you chair the telco for me today?

Kind regards,

Philipp.

Am 19.02.18 um 00:01 schrieb Julia Bosque Gil:
Hi all,
Here is a first draft of the telos example, remodeled with DictionaryEntryComponent(s). Since attestations (vs. usage examples) are also an issue, we could try to address both the sense hierarchy and attestations during the same telco (if time allows):

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TogPjrLyJS0OK5pzww28751MX7179-NzCIsDdzae65o/edit#bookmark=id.ibectx5jjsod<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1TogPjrLyJS0OK5pzww28751MX7179-NzCIsDdzae65o%2Fedit%23bookmark%3Did.ibectx5jjsod&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4977ba568c2142d4428508d58409af66%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636560099481407971&sdata=2V5n1IMD336nZ6yYzBkJizCzhrzLv8mX4LlpMPOJ36I%3D&reserved=0>
Talk to you soon,
Best,
Julia

2018-02-05 16:49 GMT+01:00 Fahad Khan <anasfkhan81@gmail.com<mailto:anasfkhan81@gmail.com>>:
Dear Philipp,
I will try to have it ready for the 19th but I will be travelling most of this week and most of next week so it will be difficult.  @Julia very helpfully offered to assist me and hopefully with her help I should manage (I still have to get touch with her after the call).
Cheers,
Fahad

On 5 February 2018 at 16:37, Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de<mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>> wrote:

Dear all,

I have to apologize. I intended to attend the call today, but there were technical problems at our institute today around mid day so that I could not connect via skype.

I am very sorry for this, but I am even more happy that Julia chaired the telco for me ;-) Thanks Julia!

We agreed to meet in two weeks from today to discuss the reworked telos-example by Fahad.

@Fahad: can you confirm that you will be able to remodel the example along the lines we discussed for the telco in two weeks?

Other than that, I will bring up some of the issues discussed during the last telcos up to this mailing list and send a summary so that more people can contribute.

Stay tuned.

Kind regards,

Philipp

Am 05.02.18 um 15:04 schrieb Julia Bosque Gil:
Dear all,
Here are the minutes of today's call: https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2018.05.02,_13-14_pm_CET<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fcommunity%2Fontolex%2Fwiki%2FTeleconference%2C_2018.05.02%2C_13-14_pm_CET&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4977ba568c2142d4428508d58409af66%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636560099481407971&sdata=UHb2fMp%2BSi2%2FoVLjZ8Uk5E0GvDTWA8VpySnXKFC38DQ%3D&reserved=0>
You can also find a summary at the end of our Skype chat. If you haven't joined yet, here is the link for future reference: https://join.skype.com/ncintRpMcpEy<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjoin.skype.com%2FncintRpMcpEy&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4977ba568c2142d4428508d58409af66%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636560099481407971&sdata=qepz3zJPk2dcy%2FUgYvVHWdBblN0MXY8TVp09m3wSo2w%3D&reserved=0>
We discussed issues 4 (usage examples) and 5 (geographical information). Issues 1 and 3, which are controversial, were not addressed today.
Best wishes,
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2018-02-05 7:23 GMT+01:00 Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de<mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>>:
Dear all,

  this is a gentle reminder that we agreed to have our ontolex
teleconference today (Monday 5th of February) at 13:00 CET.

The idea was to quickly go over the list of open issues (finally).

I added short minutes of the last two meetings to the ontolex wiki:

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Talk to you later at 13:00 CET over skype.

Philipp

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