- From: Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:00:55 +0200
- To: John McCrae <john.mccrae@insight-centre.org>, Jorge Gracia <jogracia@unizar.es>
- Cc: Fahad Khan <anasfkhan81@gmail.com>, public-ontolex <public-ontolex@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <eefbe1f4-f7f7-9e03-14cb-38307436fd7a@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
Dear all, I am not available today either, sorry. Please go ahead without me. Greetings, Philipp. Am 25.06.18 um 11:42 schrieb John McCrae: > Hi all, > > I won't be able to make it, but if you do make a call, please discuss > the planned face-to-face meeting. > > Thanks, > John > > On 25 June 2018 at 10:11, Jorge Gracia <jogracia@unizar.es > <mailto:jogracia@unizar.es>> wrote: > > Hi Fahad, all, > > > Just to confirm. There's a call at 1300 cet today right? > > I think so. (However, I cannot be punctual today and will join a > bit later; sorry about that.) > > BTW, I have expanded our set of definitions at > https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Lexicography#June_2018 > <https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Lexicography#June_2018> > with more details, particularly with Fahad's view taken from their > Euralex paper. @Fahad: please feel free to correct me or to add > anything else > > Best, > Jorge > > > El lun., 25 jun. 2018 a las 10:58, Fahad Khan > (<anasfkhan81@gmail.com <mailto:anasfkhan81@gmail.com>>) escribió: > > Hi everyone > Just to confirm. There's a call at 1300 cet today right? > Cheers > Fahad > > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 13:10 John McCrae, > <john.mccrae@insight-centre.org > <mailto:john.mccrae@insight-centre.org>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > As many people seem to be busy, I propose we skip the call > today and have the next call in two weeks on the 25th. > > Regards, > John > > On 11 June 2018 at 11:27, Jorge Gracia <jogracia@unizar.es > <mailto:jogracia@unizar.es>> wrote: > > Dear Philipp, all, > > I copied the minutes of the last telco in the > wiki(https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2018.05.28,_13-14_pm_CEST > <https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2018.05.28,_13-14_pm_CEST>). > > Also, I started collecting the proposed definitions > for "attestation" at > https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Lexicography#June_2018 > <https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Lexicography#June_2018> > (feel free to add/modify anything) > > Best, > Jorge > > El lun., 11 jun. 2018 a las 9:49, Philipp Cimiano > (<cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de > <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>>) escribió: > > Dear all, > > the next telco is today at 13:00 CET. I > mentioned that I am travelling and that I can not > attend. > > The first today would be to agree IMHO on a common > understanding of the concept of attestation. I > proposed the following definition: > > Attestation: An attestation is a reference to a > source that proves that the lexical entry has a > certain linguistic property (e.g. a sense). > > Once you have agreed on a common definition, it > might be worth going in detail through the > examples provided by Fahad. > > Best regards, > > Philipp. > > > Am 11.06.18 um 09:34 schrieb Jorge Gracia: >> Hi Philipp, all, >> >> When is the next telco taking place? today? next >> week? >> >> Thanks! >> Jorge >> >> >> El lun., 4 jun. 2018 a las 15:26, Julia Bosque >> Gil (<jbosque@fi.upm.es >> <mailto:jbosque@fi.upm.es>>) escribió: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I am available next Monday (11th) and the >> following week (18th). >> >> Best, >> >> Julia >> >> El lun., 4 jun. 2018 a las 12:42, Katrien >> Depuydt (<Katrien.Depuydt@ivdnt.org >> <mailto:Katrien.Depuydt@ivdnt.org>>) escribió: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am available next Monday, but the week >> after that as well. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Katrien >> >> >> Lic. Katrien Depuydt/ >> /senior onderzoeker/taalkundige >> >> senior researcher/linguist >> >> +31 (0)71 527 2479 +31 (0)6 53627318 / >> kamer 104 >> >> */instituut voor de Nederlandse taal/* >> >> Rapenburg 61 / 2311 GJ / Leiden >> >> Postbus 6515 / 2300 RA / Leiden >> >> ivdnt.org <http://ivdnt.org> >> >> This message shall not constitute any >> obligations. >> >> This message is intended solely for the >> addressee. >> If you have received this message in >> error, please >> inform us and delete the message. >> >> *Van:*Ilan Kernerman >> [mailto:ilan@kdictionaries.com >> <mailto:ilan@kdictionaries.com>] >> *Verzonden:* maandag 4 juni 2018 12:40 >> *Aan:* Philipp Cimiano; >> public-ontolex@w3.org >> <mailto:public-ontolex@w3.org> >> *Onderwerp:* RE: citations etc >> >> I will not be available next week. My >> apologies. >> >> Ilan >> >> *From:*Philipp Cimiano >> [mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de >> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>] >> *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2018 1:32 PM >> *To:* public-ontolex@w3.org >> <mailto:public-ontolex@w3.org> >> *Subject:* Re: citations etc >> >> Dear Fahad, >> >> if this is the case, then I propose we >> skip the teleconference today. >> >> It would be good to have you available to >> discuss your paper and the definitions of >> attestation. >> >> I propose then we postpone to next week. >> I will not be available, but I think it >> is more important that other players are >> available (Fahad, Ilan, Katrien, etc.) >> >> Will John or Julia be available for >> chairing next week? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Philipp. >> >> Am 04.06.18 um 12:23 schrieb Fahad Khan: >> >> Hi Philipp, >> >> I'm afraid I won't be able to attend >> today. >> >> Cheers, >> Fahad >> >> On 4 June 2018 at 12:16, Philipp >> Cimiano >> <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de >> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>> >> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> thanks for this Ilan. >> >> @All. I had planned a telco for >> today as I will not be available >> for the next two weeks. >> >> And here is my proposed >> definition for an attestation: >> >> Attestation: An attestation is a >> reference to a source that proves >> that the lexical entry has a >> certain linguistic property (e.g. >> a sense). >> >> I propose we talk at 13:00 today >> to touch base and see how we >> continue our discussion on >> attestation. >> >> Talk to you later, >> >> Philipp. >> >> Am 02.06.18 um 12:46 schrieb Ilan >> Kernerman: >> >> Dear all, >> >> Following our last call, here >> are some suggestions: >> >> ·A /citation/ consists of a >> quote from a corpus (text); >> it may either (i) include a >> reference to its origin >> (/bibl/), or (ii) not. >> >> oAn /attestation/ is the >> reference to a source >> (/bibl/) without its actual >> /citation/. >> >> §(in other words, /bibl/ and >> /attestation/ might be >> similar, but the latter is >> not preceded by a /citation/) >> >> ·An /example of usage/ (or >> /usage example/) is >> human-crafted, whether (i) >> corpus-inspired/derived, or >> (ii) not. >> >> oThe /example/ can consist of >> either a full sentence or a >> short phrase (and could also >> be a /citation/) >> >> §(there are different types >> of examples – mainly of >> general patterns, for >> reception/decoding purposes, >> active for >> production/encoding – but >> that is probably beyond the >> scope here) >> >> This might seem like >> over-simplifying or >> distorting matters, but I >> hope it is useful for more >> accurate mapping/tagging. >> >> I think this does not >> contradict the concerns >> raised in Fahad’s article J: >> >> “Lemon, unlike TEI-DICT, >> however focuses on capturing >> the conceptual content of a >> lexicon, that is, it takes a >> primarily lexical view of >> lexical resources… Hence >> there is no conflict here >> between the demands of >> fidelity to the text in its >> lexical view and the text in >> its editorial and >> typographical view as there >> is in TEI; lemon simply >> prioritises the former.” >> >> “…a proper encoding of >> citations attesting to >> lexical properties must take >> into consideration at least >> two different kinds of >> conceptual entity: citations >> and attestations” >> >> Best, >> >> Ilan >> >> -- >> >> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano >> >> AG Semantic Computing >> >> Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive >> Interaction Technology (CITEC) >> >> Universität Bielefeld >> >> Tel: +49 521 106 12249 >> >> Fax: +49 521 106 6560 >> >> Mail: >> cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de >> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> >> >> Office CITEC-2.307 >> >> Universitätsstr. 21-25 >> >> 33615 Bielefeld, NRW >> >> Germany >> >> -- >> >> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano >> >> AG Semantic Computing >> >> Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive >> Interaction Technology (CITEC) >> >> Universität Bielefeld >> >> Tel: +49 521 106 12249 >> >> Fax: +49 521 106 6560 >> >> Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de >> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> >> >> Office CITEC-2.307 >> >> Universitätsstr. 21-25 >> >> 33615 Bielefeld, NRW >> >> Germany >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Aan dit bericht kunnen geen rechten >> worden ontleend. >> Het bericht is alleen bestemd voor de >> geadresseerde. >> Indien het bericht niet voor u is >> bestemd, verzoeken wij >> u dit aan ons te melden en het bericht te >> verwijderen. >> >> This message shall not constitute any >> obligations. >> This message is intended solely for the >> addressee. >> If you have received this message in >> error, please >> inform us and delete the message. >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Julia Bosque Gil >> PhD Student >> Ontology Engineering Group >> <http://www.oeg-upm.net/> >> Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial >> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid >> >> >> >> -- >> Jorge Gracia, PhD >> Department of Computer Science and Systems >> Engineering >> University of Zaragoza >> http://jogracia.url.ph/web/ > > -- > Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano > AG Semantic Computing > Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC) > Universität Bielefeld > > Tel: +49 521 106 12249 > Fax: +49 521 106 6560 > Mail:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de > <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> > > Office CITEC-2.307 > Universitätsstr. 21-25 > 33615 Bielefeld, NRW > Germany > > > > -- > Jorge Gracia, PhD > Department of Computer Science and Systems Engineering > University of Zaragoza > http://jogracia.url.ph/web/ > > > > > -- > Jorge Gracia, PhD > Department of Computer Science and Systems Engineering > University of Zaragoza > http://jogracia.url.ph/web/ > > -- Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano AG Semantic Computing Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC) Universität Bielefeld Tel: +49 521 106 12249 Fax: +49 521 106 6560 Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de Office CITEC-2.307 Universitätsstr. 21-25 33615 Bielefeld, NRW Germany
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