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Re: citations etc

From: Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 12:31:33 +0200
To: public-ontolex@w3.org
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Dear Fahad,

if this is the case, then I propose we skip the teleconference today.

It would be good to have you available to discuss your paper and the 
definitions of attestation.

I propose then we postpone to next week. I will not be available, but I 
think it is more important that other players are available (Fahad, 
Ilan, Katrien, etc.)

Will John or Julia be available for chairing next week?

Kind regards,

Philipp.


Am 04.06.18 um 12:23 schrieb Fahad Khan:
> Hi Philipp,
> I'm afraid I won't be able to attend today.
> Cheers,
> Fahad
>
> On 4 June 2018 at 12:16, Philipp Cimiano 
> <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de 
> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>> wrote:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>      thanks for this Ilan.
>
>     @All. I had planned a telco for today as I will not be available
>     for the next two weeks.
>
>     And here is my proposed definition for an attestation:
>
>     Attestation: An attestation is a reference to a source that proves
>     that the lexical entry has a certain linguistic property (e.g. a
>     sense).
>
>     I propose we talk at 13:00 today to touch base and see how we
>     continue our discussion on attestation.
>
>     Talk to you later,
>
>     Philipp.
>
>
>     Am 02.06.18 um 12:46 schrieb Ilan Kernerman:
>>
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>     Following our last call, here are some suggestions:
>>
>>     ·A /citation/ consists of a quote from a corpus (text); it may
>>     either (i) include a reference to its origin (/bibl/), or (ii) not.
>>
>>     oAn /attestation/ is the reference to a source (/bibl/) without
>>     its actual /citation/.
>>
>>     §(in other words, /bibl/ and /attestation/ might be similar, but
>>     the latter is not preceded by a /citation/)
>>
>>     ·An /example of usage/ (or /usage example/) is human-crafted,
>>     whether (i) corpus-inspired/derived, or (ii) not.
>>
>>     oThe /example/ can consist of either a full sentence or a short
>>     phrase (and could also be a /citation/)
>>
>>     §(there are different types of examples – mainly of general
>>     patterns, for reception/decoding purposes, active for
>>     production/encoding – but that is probably beyond the scope here)
>>
>>     This might seem like over-simplifying or distorting matters, but
>>     I hope it is useful for more accurate mapping/tagging.
>>
>>     I think this does not contradict the concerns raised in Fahad’s
>>     article J:
>>
>>     “Lemon, unlike TEI-DICT, however focuses on capturing the
>>     conceptual content of a lexicon, that is, it takes a primarily
>>     lexical view of lexical resources… Hence there is no conflict
>>     here between the demands of fidelity to the text in its lexical
>>     view and the text in its editorial and typographical view as
>>     there is in TEI; lemon simply prioritises the former.”
>>
>>     “…a proper encoding of citations attesting to lexical properties
>>     must take into consideration at least two different kinds of
>>     conceptual entity: citations and attestations”
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     Ilan
>>
>
>     -- 
>     Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
>     AG Semantic Computing
>     Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
>     Universität Bielefeld
>
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>
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>

-- 
Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
AG Semantic Computing
Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
Universität Bielefeld

Tel: +49 521 106 12249
Fax: +49 521 106 6560
Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de

Office CITEC-2.307
Universitätsstr. 21-25
33615 Bielefeld, NRW
Germany
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