Re: citations etc

Dear Philipp,
I probably won't be around next Monday either. But apart from Thursday I'm
free the rest of the week.
Cheers
Fahad

On 4 June 2018 at 12:31, Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
wrote:

> Dear Fahad,
>
> if this is the case, then I propose we skip the teleconference today.
>
> It would be good to have you available to discuss your paper and the
> definitions of attestation.
>
> I propose then we postpone to next week. I will not be available, but I
> think it is more important that other players are available (Fahad, Ilan,
> Katrien, etc.)
>
> Will John or Julia be available for chairing next week?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Philipp.
>
> Am 04.06.18 um 12:23 schrieb Fahad Khan:
>
> Hi Philipp,
> I'm afraid I won't be able to attend today.
> Cheers,
> Fahad
>
> On 4 June 2018 at 12:16, Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>  thanks for this Ilan.
>>
>> @All. I had planned a telco for today as I will not be available for the
>> next two weeks.
>>
>> And here is my proposed definition for an attestation:
>>
>> Attestation: An attestation is a reference to a source that proves that
>> the lexical entry has a certain linguistic property (e.g. a sense).
>>
>> I propose we talk at 13:00 today to touch base and see how we continue
>> our discussion on attestation.
>>
>> Talk to you later,
>>
>> Philipp.
>>
>> Am 02.06.18 um 12:46 schrieb Ilan Kernerman:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Following our last call, here are some suggestions:
>>
>> ·         A *citation* consists of a quote from a corpus (text); it may
>> either (i) include a reference to its origin (*bibl*), or (ii) not.
>>
>> o   An *attestation* is the reference to a source (*bibl*) without its
>> actual *citation*.
>>
>> § (in other words, *bibl* and *attestation* might be similar, but the
>> latter is not preceded by a *citation*)
>>
>> ·         An *example of usage* (or *usage example*) is human-crafted,
>> whether (i) corpus-inspired/derived, or (ii) not.
>>
>> o   The *example* can consist of either a full sentence or a short
>> phrase (and could also be a *citation*)
>>
>> § (there are different types of examples – mainly of general patterns,
>> for reception/decoding purposes, active for production/encoding – but that
>> is probably beyond the scope here)
>>
>> This might seem like over-simplifying or distorting matters, but I hope
>> it is useful for more accurate mapping/tagging.
>>
>> I think this does not contradict the concerns raised in Fahad’s article J
>> :
>>
>> “Lemon, unlike TEI-DICT, however focuses on capturing the conceptual
>> content of a lexicon, that is, it takes a primarily lexical view of lexical
>> resources… Hence there is no conflict here between the demands of fidelity
>> to the text in its lexical view and the text in its editorial and
>> typographical view as there is in TEI; lemon simply prioritises the former.
>> ”
>>
>> “…a proper encoding of citations attesting to lexical properties must
>> take into consideration at least two different kinds of conceptual entity:
>> citations and attestations”
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ilan
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
>> AG Semantic Computing
>> Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
>> Universität Bielefeld
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>
> --
> Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
> AG Semantic Computing
> Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
> Universität Bielefeld
>
> Tel: +49 521 106 12249
> Fax: +49 521 106 6560
> Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de
>
> Office CITEC-2.307
> Universitätsstr. 21-25
> 33615 Bielefeld, NRW
> Germany
>
>