- From: Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:06:02 +0200
- To: John McCrae <john@mccr.ae>
- Cc: "public-ontolex@w3.org" <public-ontolex@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <65caca65-eef6-7a48-58ba-5ac21fa8db77@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
Thanks a lot John for the minutes!
I will paste them into the wiki.
Greetings,
Philipp.
Am 25.07.17 um 15:27 schrieb John McCrae:
> Hi,
>
> Here are some minutes from the call:
>
> Present: Philipp Cimiano, Julia Bosque-Gil, Manuel Fiorelli, Francesca
> Frontini, Fahad Khan, John McCrae, Elena Montiel, Jorge Gracia, Sander
> Stolk, Morris Alper, Ilan Kernerman, Thierry Declerck
> Apologies: Francis Bond
>
> * [PC] Focus of telco is on using model for representing existing
> dictionaries
> * [PC] Propose introduction of Dictionary and DictionaryEntry, to
> group distinct lexical entries/senses that would be under the same
> headword
> * Dictionary headwords ("entries") often contain multiple
> part-of-speech, gender, pronunciations
> o But not always, e.g., OED
> * Criteria for dividing lexical entries are not clear in traditional
> dictionaries
> * [FF?] How does this affect etymology?
> o [JM] Depends on outcome of diachronicity module
> * [IK] Is the purpose of OntoLex to model existing dictionaries or
> should OntoLex dictionaries be "LD-native"?
> o Modelling existing dictionaries accurately risks incompatibility
> * [MA] Do we assume each dictionary entry contains a distinct set of
> lexical entries?
> o [JM] Add axiom that a lexical entry is part of at most one
> dictionary entry?
> o [FK] Axioms are frequently ignored. See the requirement that
> each sense must have one reference
> + [JM] This should be revised
> o [SS] A dictionary entry should be described by the entries it
> contains
> * [JG] Original goal of dictionary entries is to be composed of LEs
> and capture a "view of the dictionary"
> * [TD] Some dictionaries (e.g., Dictionary of Bavarian Dialects)
> captures a lot of information on the head word for space reasons,
> this is not a problem for OntoLex
> * [JM] Goal of OntoLex is not to accurately represent dictionaries
> but be useful for applications such as NLP
> o [FF] We should consider not just use cases in NLP, but also
> other areas such as DH
> * [TD] Decomposition should also refer to senses
> o [JM] A property should be added to support this
> * [JB] Prefer dictionary entry as a container for lexical senses.
> * [JM] Why not two classes, one for lexical senses and one for entries?
> o [PC] Why not use the same class for both?
> + [JM,JG,MA] This could make things difficult technically
>
> Summary
>
> * Propose new link from decomp:Component -> ontolex:LexicalSense (to
> be named)
> * Introduce a new class grouping lexical entries/lexical senses. Either:
> 1. DictionaryEntry as a group of lexical senses
> 2. DictionaryEntry as a group of lexical entries
> 3. DictionaryEntry as a group of lexical senses and/or lexical
> entries
> 4. LexicalDictionaryEntry [?] as a group of lexical entries and
> SenseDictionaryEntry [?] as a group of lexical senses.
> * Next Meeting: 5th September 14:00 CET (12:00 UTC)
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Philipp Cimiano
> <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de
> <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> the details for the teleconference tomorrow at 14:00 CET can be
> found here:
>
> https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2017.7.24,_14-15_pm_CET
> <https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2017.7.24,_14-15_pm_CET>
>
> @Julia: can you point to everyone to the examples in the wiki that we
> can discuss tomorrow? Thanks!
>
> Talk to you tomorrow.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Philipp
>
>
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Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
Universität Bielefeld
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