- From: Armando Stellato <stellato@info.uniroma2.it>
- Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:06:52 +0200
- To: "'Philipp Cimiano'" <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>, <public-ontolex@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <016d01cf7a8e$d886c790$899456b0$@info.uniroma2.it>
Dear Philipp, thanks very much for your resuming email. I will reply to it more in details asap, in the meanwhile, a short note about the “numberOfXXX” properties. I would go for names which are homogeneous with VoID similar properties (void:entities, void:triples), and thus, have something like: lime:lexicalEntries lime:lexicalizations lime:senses lime:references (modulo ratios obviously :DDD ). Cheers, Armando From: Philipp Cimiano [mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:06 PM To: public-ontolex@w3.org Subject: Re: lexicalization count Armando, all, yes that would be ok from my point of view. // counting properties (datatype properties, with domain (ontolex:Lexicon OR ontolex:Lexicalization OR void:Dataset OR lime:LanguageCoverage) lime:numberOfLexicalEntries lime:numberOfSenses lime:numberOfLexicalizations (denote-tirples) lime:numberOfReferences -> the number of distinct references used We then need to discuss whether we should also include ratios etc. Then: lime:language (unified with ontolex:language, extended here to domain lime:LanguageCoverage lime:linguisticModel: describing by which model/vocabulary information about lexicalization is attached; the domain is void:Dataset and the range is the URI of the vocabulary; lime:linguisticModel is thus a subproperty of void:vocabulary Note that several linguisticModels can co-exist in principle in a dataset... lime:type: providing a type for the resource in question, e.g. bilingual lexicon, lexicon, ..., domain is void:Dataset and range is not specified lime:languageCoverage with domain void:Datase and range lime:LanguageCoverage. lime:LanguageCoverage has a language, a linguistic Model and all the counting properties above are defined for it. If this is a base model we can agree upon then I will update the wiki description and the ontology. Let me know your comments on this. Regards, Philipp. Am 23.05.14 13:49, schrieb Armando Stellato: Hi all, Just copied and pasted from our Ontolex-Lime proposal , an open discussion about the lexicalizations count (which is not about them be ratios or integers :P ). 6. Lexicalization core triples: senses or what? Senses act as reifications of the relationships between LexicalEntries and Conceptual Entities (be them LexicalConcepts or entities of the lexicalized ontology). In effect, a single sense is always 1-1 (it links a single Lexical Entry with a single Conceptual Entity) The ontolex model has a shortcut for the relationship (mediated by senses) between LexicalEntries and LexicalConcept: ontolex:denotes. We would propose to formally consider the number of “denotes triples” (triples with predicate == ontolex:denotes) to obtain the count. Obviously, this information may not always be available (not explicit nor inferred), though the detail of how to obtain this are just technicalities. [added wrt the proposal] So, in shorter words, we propose to formally count “lexicalizations” as the number of ontoresource <--> lexicalEntry links, and not as the number of (linked) senses. To support our claim, please note the following case: 1. a lexicon exists (independently of an ontology), with sense descriptions for its lexical entries, and with one lexical entry having two very close senses (two smooth variations of a broad meaning) 2. the lexicon is used to lexicalize an ontology 3. the authors of the Lexicalization decide to collapse the two senses into the same ontology concept 4. the two triples connecting the two similar senses to the same ontology concept entail the same ontolex:denotes triple 5. to the purpose of counting the lexicalizations of that lexical concept, the single triple count on ontolex:denotes is more appropriate than counting the two senses of a same LexicalEntry linked to the same concept. Would that be ok? Cheers, Armando -- Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano Phone: +49 521 106 12249 Fax: +49 521 106 12412 Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de <mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de> Forschungsbau Intelligente Systeme (FBIIS) Raum 2.307 Universität Bielefeld Inspiration 1 33619 Bielefeld
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