- From: Elena Montiel Ponsoda <elemontiel@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:39:23 +0200
- To: public-ontolex@w3.org, Alessandro Oltramari <aoltrama@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Message-ID: <5233239B.1030408@gmail.com>
Alessandro, all, I just updated the list of lexical, terminological and semantic variants, according to a paper we got recently accepted at the TIA 2013 conference. See: http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Specification_of_Requirements/Properties-and-Relations-of-Entries Hope it helps! Elena. El 13/09/2013 15:55, Alessandro Oltramari escribió: > As mentioned in a previous message, I agree with Guido and Gil's stance. > Apologies for not calling in today. > Best, > > Alessandro > On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Gil FRANCOPOULO wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> >> I agree with Guido. >> >> >> The new model is broader, defined with different people, under a >> different administrative umbrella, so this is different. >> >> >> Using the name "lemon" is confusing. >> >> >> In the future, if somebody says "lemon", we need to ask: what "lemon" >> are you talking about ? The old one or the new one. >> >> >> Using the term "ontolex", means a fresh and clean start, for new >> adventures... >> >> >> Best, >> >> Gil Francopoulo >> >> >> >> >> > Message du 13/09/13 14:45 >> > De : "Guido Vetere" >> > A : "public-ontolex@w3.org <mailto:public-ontolex@w3.org>" >> > Copie à : "Philipp Cimiano" , "Guadalupe Aguado de Cea" , >> johnmccrae@gmail.com <mailto:johnmccrae@gmail.com> >> > Objet : Re: ontolex telco tomorrow 15:00 CET >> > >> > Dear all, >> > >> > although, as Shakespeare, said "a rose by any other name would >> smell as sweet", I think that names matter. I think that keeping >> 'lemon' (or a variant) would suggest that the work we are doing >> is basically a follow-on of the Lemon initiative, which, at the >> time the group has been established, was not the case, at least >> in my understanding. Hence, I think that keeping the original >> 'ontolex' name is a better option. >> > >> > I'm unable to attend the call this evening, sorry about that. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Guido Vetere >> > Manager, Center for Advanced Studies IBM Italia >> > _________________________________________________ >> > Rome Trento >> > Via Sciangai 53 Via Sommarive 18 >> > 00144 Roma, Italy 38123 Povo in Trento >> > +39 (0)6 59662137 >> > >> > Mobile: +39 3357454658 >> > _________________________________________________ >> > >> > >> > >> *John McCrae * >> > Sent by: johnmccrae@gmail.com <mailto:johnmccrae@gmail.com> >> >> > 13/09/2013 11:43 >> >> >> To >> Guadalupe Aguado de Cea >> cc >> Philipp Cimiano , "public-ontolex@w3.org >> <mailto:public-ontolex@w3.org>" >> Subject >> Re: ontolex telco tomorrow 15:00 CET >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I apologise I will also not be able to attend as I am >> travelling today. I wanted to make a quick couple of points about >> the naming of the model. >> > >> > Firstly, the model is not drastically new in fact in terms of >> URIs 15 of the properties are exactly the same as they are in the >> original /lemon/ core where as only 9 are new introductions, and >> 4 are not carried over from the ontolex core (although these >> should be included in modules). >> > >> > Also, I am here at RANLP and /lemon/ has been mentioned in >> several talks including one of the keynotes, at tutorials and >> many times in the NLP&LOD workshop. Many people who I talked to >> about the naming of the model seemed not keen accept a change of >> name. >> > >> > For these two reasons I feel that we really should to keep >> lemon in the name but would be happy with Lemon2 or W3C-Lemon as >> a name >> > >> > Regards, >> > John >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Guadalupe Aguado de Cea >> <guadalupe.aguado@upm.es <mailto:guadalupe.aguado@upm.es>> wrote: >> > Dear all, >> > >> > I won't be able to join the telco as I have a meeting in >> another town. >> > As for the name of the model, the last 2 suggestions proposed >> by Phillipp and Aldo: lemon2, and lemon-W3C could be Ok, though >> I'm more inclined to the first one, lemon2. Exactly for the >> reasons given by Philipp. >> > >> > I know that Elena & Jorge will attend the telco, so they'll >> tell me about the commitments and the modules.. >> > Best regards >> > >> > Lupe >> > >> > El 12/09/2013 14:38, Philipp Cimiano escribió: >> > >> > Dear all, >> > >> > this is a gentle reminder that we will have our regular >> ontolex telco tomorrow Friday at the regular time. >> > >> > See access details here: >> http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2013.13.09,_15-16_pm_CET >> > >> > The agenda from my side is as follows: >> > >> > 1) Modules: decide which modules need to be developed and which >> use cases will drive them, fix responsibles for module development >> > 2) Name of the model: discuss different points of view >> > 3) Linking: what to link to >> > >> > I look forward to talking to you all on Friday. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Philipp. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Guadalupe Aguado de Cea >> > Departamento de Lingüística Aplicada >> > Miembro del Ontology Engineering Group -OEG >> > Facultad de Informática >> > Universidad Politécnica de Madrid >> > Campus de Montegancedo, sn >> > 28660, Boadilla del Monte, Spain >> > >> > Home page: www.oeg-upm.net <http://www.oeg-upm.net/> >> > e-mail: guadalupe.aguado@upm.es <mailto:guadalupe.aguado@upm.es> >> > Telef.: 34-91-3367415 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > IBM Italia S.p.A. >> > Sede Legale: Circonvallazione Idroscalo - 20090 Segrate (MI) >> > Cap. 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