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Lexical, terminological and semantic variants

From: Elena Montiel Ponsoda <elemontiel@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:39:23 +0200
Message-ID: <5233239B.1030408@gmail.com>
To: public-ontolex@w3.org, Alessandro Oltramari <aoltrama@andrew.cmu.edu>
Alessandro, all,

I just updated the list of lexical, terminological and semantic 
variants, according to a paper we got recently accepted at the TIA 2013 
conference.

See:
http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Specification_of_Requirements/Properties-and-Relations-of-Entries

Hope it helps!
Elena.

El 13/09/2013 15:55, Alessandro Oltramari escribió:
> As mentioned in a previous message, I agree with Guido and Gil's stance.
> Apologies for not calling in today.
> Best,
>
> Alessandro
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Gil FRANCOPOULO wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> I agree with Guido.
>>
>>
>> The new model is broader, defined with different people, under a 
>> different administrative umbrella, so this is different.
>>
>>
>> Using the name "lemon" is confusing.
>>
>>
>> In the future, if somebody says "lemon", we need to ask: what "lemon" 
>> are you talking about ? The old one or the new one.
>>
>>
>> Using the term "ontolex", means a fresh and clean start, for new 
>> adventures...
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gil Francopoulo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     > Message du 13/09/13 14:45
>>     > De : "Guido Vetere"
>>     > A : "public-ontolex@w3.org <mailto:public-ontolex@w3.org>"
>>     > Copie à : "Philipp Cimiano" , "Guadalupe Aguado de Cea" ,
>>     johnmccrae@gmail.com <mailto:johnmccrae@gmail.com>
>>     > Objet : Re: ontolex telco tomorrow 15:00 CET
>>     >
>>     > Dear all,
>>     >
>>     > although, as Shakespeare, said "a rose by any other name would
>>     smell as sweet", I think that names matter. I think that keeping
>>     'lemon' (or a variant) would suggest that the work we are doing
>>     is basically a follow-on of the Lemon initiative, which, at the
>>     time the group has been established, was not the case, at least
>>     in my understanding. Hence, I think that keeping the original
>>     'ontolex' name is a better option.
>>     >
>>     > I'm unable to attend the call this evening, sorry about that.
>>     >
>>     > Regards,
>>     >
>>     > Guido Vetere
>>     > Manager, Center for Advanced Studies IBM Italia
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>>     *John McCrae *
>>     > Sent by: johnmccrae@gmail.com <mailto:johnmccrae@gmail.com>
>>
>>     > 13/09/2013 11:43
>>
>>     	
>>     To
>>     Guadalupe Aguado de Cea 	
>>     cc
>>     Philipp Cimiano , "public-ontolex@w3.org
>>     <mailto:public-ontolex@w3.org>" 	
>>     Subject
>>     Re: ontolex telco tomorrow 15:00 CET
>>
>>
>>     >
>>
>>
>>     >
>>
>>
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Hi all,
>>     >
>>     > I apologise I will also not be able to attend as I am
>>     travelling today. I wanted to make a quick couple of points about
>>     the naming of the model.
>>     >
>>     > Firstly, the model is not drastically new in fact in terms of
>>     URIs 15 of the properties are exactly the same as they are in the
>>     original /lemon/ core where as only 9 are new introductions, and
>>     4 are not carried over from the ontolex core (although these
>>     should be included in modules).
>>     >
>>     > Also, I am here at RANLP and /lemon/ has been mentioned in
>>     several talks including one of the keynotes, at tutorials and
>>     many times in the NLP&LOD workshop. Many people who I talked to
>>     about the naming of the model seemed not keen accept a change of
>>     name.
>>     >
>>     > For these two reasons I feel that we really should to keep
>>     lemon in the name but would be happy with Lemon2 or W3C-Lemon as
>>     a name
>>     >
>>     > Regards,
>>     > John
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Guadalupe Aguado de Cea
>>     <guadalupe.aguado@upm.es <mailto:guadalupe.aguado@upm.es>> wrote:
>>     > Dear all,
>>     >
>>     > I won't be able to join the telco as I have a meeting in
>>     another town.
>>     > As for the name of the model, the last 2 suggestions proposed
>>     by Phillipp and Aldo: lemon2, and lemon-W3C could be Ok, though
>>     I'm more inclined to the first one, lemon2. Exactly for the
>>     reasons given by Philipp.
>>     >
>>     > I know that Elena & Jorge will attend the telco, so they'll
>>     tell me about the commitments and the modules..
>>     > Best regards
>>     >
>>     > Lupe
>>     >
>>     > El 12/09/2013 14:38, Philipp Cimiano escribió:
>>     >
>>     > Dear all,
>>     >
>>     >    this is a gentle reminder that we will have our regular
>>     ontolex telco tomorrow Friday at the regular time.
>>     >
>>     > See access details here:
>>     http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2013.13.09,_15-16_pm_CET
>>     >
>>     > The agenda from my side is as follows:
>>     >
>>     > 1) Modules: decide which modules need to be developed and which
>>     use cases will drive them, fix responsibles for module development
>>     > 2) Name of the model: discuss different points of view
>>     > 3) Linking: what to link to
>>     >
>>     > I look forward to talking to you all on Friday.
>>     >
>>     > Best regards,
>>     >
>>     > Philipp.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > --
>>     > Guadalupe Aguado de Cea
>>     > Departamento de Lingüística Aplicada
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Elena Montiel-Ponsoda
Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
Facultad de Informática
Campus de Montegancedo s/n
Boadilla del Monte-28660 Madrid, España
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