Re: SMuFL: Additional symbols (soft accents)

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From: "Tristan Jakob-Hoff" <classic@goldbug.org.uk>

Date: Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM -0700

Subject: Re: SMuFL: Additional symbols (soft accents)

To: <d.spreadbury@steinberg.de>, <kentaro.sato@yahoo.com>

Cc: <public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org>












Brahms's 4th Symphony has some examples on the first page - first and second violins from bar 9 onwards.


I do think of these as dynamics rather than articulations myself. But I do wonder whether a variable width 'messa di voce' glyph might be desirable in any case, as positioning cresc and decresc hairpins so close together can be fiddly and yield unsatisfactory results.


Tristan



From: Daniel Spreadbury

Sent: Tuesday 20 October 09:20

Subject: Re: SMuFL: Additional symbols (soft accents)

To: Kentaro Sato (Ken-P)

Cc: public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org



"Kentaro Sato (Ken-P)" <kentaro.sato@yahoo.com> wrote on 19/10/2015 11:25:01:


> As far as we are on a subject on potential additional font, I would 

> like to add font symbols in the attached PDF... 

> These are related what I call "a soft accent," that we also see 

> scores of Brahms and others. A soft accent could be said a cres and 

> a dim signs on a note. 


Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the "cresc. and dim. on a single note" is more properly known as a messa di voce. I don't believe it is normally considered a form of articulation, but rather as a form of dynamics; it is also typically not properly renderable using hairpins of a fixed width, and for this reason I have to date included only the single hairpin glyphs that were originally included in the Unicode Musical Symbols Range in SMuFL (since being a superset of that range was one of SMuFL's initial goals). 


If you could cite some published scores (e.g. which Brahms pieces contain these kinds of articulations?), I would be very interested to see them and I'm certainly willing to explore this further. 


Daniel 



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