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Re: Update to XLIFF mapping for terminology use case

From: Dr. David Filip <David.Filip@ul.ie>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:10:10 +0100
Message-ID: <CANw5LKkN0TyQRErWwOGZQ6x_y7Ru0zk3HpKJAG3zxbxwvOwHeg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@tilde.lv>
Cc: Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>, "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>, Pēteris Ņikiforovs <peteris.nikiforovs@tilde.lv>, Artūrs Vasiļevskis <arturs.vasilevskis@tilde.lv>, Tatiana Gornostay <tatiana.gornostay@tilde.lv>
Hi Marcis,

the x-its mtype is generic on purpose to facilitate usage of more than one
its category on one <mrk>.
x-its is used for all cases except for translate, term, and ta.
In these cases we are using XLIFF generic mtypes (and their custom made
negations, see the mapping table):
mtype="protect"
mtype="term"
mtype="phrase"

I hope this helps
Hopefully we will get audio soon :-)
Cheers
dF


Dr. David Filip
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On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@tilde.lv>wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> Thank you for the answers.
> I believe it is almost clear now. One last question:
>
> The "x-its" value for mtype - is it specifically created to address
> xml:lang (I ask it because it seems rather generic and maybe it should be
> treated with caution)? That is, can it be used (or will it be possible to
> use it) also to indicate of other specific mapping related annotation
> presence in the XLIFF content.
>
> Best regards,
> Mārcis ;o)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Lewis [mailto:dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: Mārcis Pinnis
> Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org; Pēteris Ņikiforovs; Artūrs
> Vasiļevskis; Tatiana Gornostay
> Subject: Re: Update to XLIFF mapping for terminology use case
>
> Thanks Marcis, comments inline:
>
> On 07/05/2013 12:08, Mārcis Pinnis wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Thanks for the information.
> >
> >  From our point, as far as I can tell (by quickly skimming through):
> > 1) Terminology is OK
> > 2) For Language Information what does the example represent? It is not
> clear to me how mtype="x-its" relates to xml:lang="en" (that is, the
> mapping is not clear to me here). Apart from that, I see that no changes
> have been made...
>
> We use
>
> mtype="x-its"
>
> to indicate that the mrk is introduced to support the language value
> transformed from ITS (rather than added natively by an XLIFF processor)
> - so its more informative and otherwise not different from native usage.
>
> > 3) Elements Within Text is OK
> > 4) Domain is OK, but ... when will the namespace be defined? And ... why
> are there multiple namespaces? its and itsx? Is there a reason why it is
> not enough to use just one?
> There are two reasons:
>
> 1) the itsx namespace is used when the attribute isn't  defined in ITS.
> So here, there is no annotations for defining domains exactly, just though
> mappings and pointers, but when processed it results in a domian annotation
> (as in the test suite)
>
> 2) the attribute exists in ITS, but some of the meaning is lost in the
> transform to XLIFF, so it need to be treated in a way that differs from
> what a 'pure' ITS processor would expect.
>
> The namespace will be:
> http://www.w3.org/ns/its-xliff/
>
> Felix now has an action to deploy this, so it will be resolvable soon.
>
> let me know if we can help explain anything further?
>
> cheers,
> Dave
>
> > 5) Locale Filter is OK.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Mārcis ;o)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Lewis [mailto:dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 1:34 PM
> > To: Mārcis Pinnis; public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
> > Subject: Update to XLIFF mapping for terminology use case
> >
> > Hi Marcis,
> > We've just finished a session in Bled where we've tried to address your
> comments on the XLIFF mapping. Could you take a quick look at:
> > http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/XLIFF_Mapping
> >
> > to check if the ssues whihc you are concerned with are addressed. If you
> can get back quikly we can try and respond while the XLIFF heads are around
> the table here.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Dave
>
>
Received on Tuesday, 7 May 2013 14:11:18 UTC

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