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[Minutes] MLW-LT call 2013-04-30

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:31:43 +0200
Message-ID: <517FB9AF.90309@w3.org>
To: "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
Hi all,

today's minutes are at
http://www.w3.org/2013/04/30-mlw-lt-minutes.html
as expected attendance was low due to short notice and different day of 
the week. So looking forward to meet many of you next week in Bled.

Best,

Felix

    [1]W3C

       [1] http://www.w3.org/

                                - DRAFT -

                                MLW-LT WG

30 Apr 2013

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Apr/0236.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/04/30-mlw-lt-irc

Attendees

    Present
           yves, karl, tadej, felix, pnietoca, mdelolmo, Milan,
           kfritsche, leroy

    Regrets
           christian, phil

    Chair
           felix

    Scribe
           tbd, fsasaki

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]checking attendees
          2. [6]Bled objectives
          3. [7]HTML "Translate" default discussion
          4. [8]UL list of issues
          5. [9]ITS 2.0 Logo
          6. [10]Moving to ITS IG
          7. [11]XLIFF review
          8. [12]bled again
          9. [13]aob
      * [14]Summary of Action Items
      __________________________________________________________

    <fsasaki> scribe: tbd

checking attendees

    <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki

    [15]http://www.w3.org/2013/04/30-mlw-lt-minutes.html

      [15] http://www.w3.org/2013/04/30-mlw-lt-minutes.html

    [16]http://www.w3.org/2013/04/30-mlw-lt-minutes.html

      [16] http://www.w3.org/2013/04/30-mlw-lt-minutes.html

    [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
    lt/2013Apr/0236.html

      [17] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Apr/0236.html

Bled objectives

    [18]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Ble
    dMay2013#Objectives

      [18] 
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/BledMay2013#Objectives

    felix: any thoughts on the objectives?
    ... tadej, can we have a speakers phone for bled? let me know
    if that faces problems

HTML "Translate" default discussion

    [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
    lt/2013Apr/0231.html

      [19] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Apr/0231.html

    "...To avoid unexpected behaviour, users of ITS 2.0 are
    strongly encouraged to set Translate behaviour in HTML5
    explicitly via global rules, and to process local translate
    attributes in HTML5 with dedicated ITS 2.0 processors."

    <Yves_> yes

    felix summarizing yves' thoughts from the mail

    <Yves_> but it's more about the behavior of translate than the
    defaults

    <Yves_> yes

    felix: the interaction between translatable elements and
    attributes
    ... currently, we have 4 ways to express translate in html5:
    ... html5 whatwg, html5 w3c cr document
    ... html5.1 document
    ... ITS 2.0 for HTML5
    ... the first three ways have rather slight differences
    ... e.g. what list of attributes to expect
    ... ITS 2.0 has a huge difference: no interaction between
    attributes and elements at all, and no default list

UL list of issues

    [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
    lt/2013Apr/0214.html

      [20] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Apr/0214.html

    no further feedback

ITS 2.0 Logo

    felix: thoughts on that here?

Moving to ITS IG

    felix: move our best practice conent to an open wiki

    [21]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Bes
    t_Practice_Documents

      [21] 
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Best_Practice_Documents

    [22]http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Main_Page

      [22] http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Main_Page

    felix: ITS wiki is for everybody
    ... pedro said and others: we need a forum for the general
    users to give them feedback

    [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig

      [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig

    felix: we can do that via the wiki and the its IG ML
    ... let's have some open calls in the IG once the last call is
    finished
    ... idea is to have less regular calls

XLIFF review

    [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
    lt/2013Apr/0215.html

      [24] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Apr/0215.html

    "Committee Specification Draft (CSD)"

    felix: will also be discussed in bled

bled again

    [25]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Ble
    dMay2013#Objectives

      [25] 
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/BledMay2013#Objectives

    "EU project internal: state of deliverables. Be prepared to
    give an update on your deliverables, due M18 and M21. 120 min.
    "

    felix: 5 min about state of each deliverable
    ... e.g. what you need from partners, how the deliverable is
    moving forward

aob

    adjourn

Summary of Action Items

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