[Minutes] MLW-LT 2012-10-01 and question

Hi all,

minutes are at
http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes
and below as text.
One question on the "canonical data category" names: wouldn't it help to
have an additional column with these in the data category overview table
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#datacategories-overview

Best,

Felix

   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

            MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group Teleconference

01 Oct 2012

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Dave, Arle, Phil, Milan, Pedro, Giuseppe, Shaun, Yves,
          Jirka, Dom, Leroy, Ankit, Tadej, Jörg, Moritz

   Regrets
          Felix

   Chair
          dF

   Scribe
          daveL

Contents

     * [4]Topics
     * [5]Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________

   df: follow up on Prague meeting
   ... Dom has followed up with reminder to fill in detailed of
   test suite commitments
   ... there were presentaton on potnetial new partners with
   impementation proposals
   ... proposal from Logrus, ]init[ and Tilde
   ... other issues - important progress made in tool referencing
   area
   ... resolved through introduction of special, non data cateogry
   mark up

   <dF>
   [6]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/is
   sues/42

      [6] https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/42

   df: this solution was a special element that was orthogonal to
   data categories
   ... currently only used compulsoraryily by mtconfidence score
   ... but owner of other data categoires, especially quality
   related one, should consider making use of this manditory
   ... this finished brief summary of prague face to face
   ... now return to open action items

   df; shaun has one on revised intro example

   df: there are several other actions requiring new input to
   specification - from Tadej, Pedro and others
   ... we will return to these also in editing session

   shaunm: action 218 on its way, and section 232 in the next few
   days

   pedro: confirms that he is able to addess 224 by tomoorw

   tadej; can provide 223 by midday tomorrow

   df;action 225 also for tadej

   tadej: will forward that tomorrow

   arle: also had some edits that need to be incorporated also,

   tadej: will liaise Arle on this

   <scribe> ACTION: arle to complete action 225 based on input
   from tadej [recorded in
   [7]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-239 - Complete action 225 based on
   input from tadej [on Arle Lommel - due 2012-10-08].

   df; will skip actions with felix as he can't make call

   df; phil to complete 227 on provenace by next week.

   df; dom has already circulated reminder for test suite
   committments

   df: notes that we can have independent implementation for W3C
   conformance even if common libraries such as OKAPI used

   leroy: action 231 completed so it can be closed
   ... git hub is availalbe and mail has been sent

   df: will extend action 231 for leroy on tests for param

   <Yves_>
   [8]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-l
   t/2012Oct/0000.html

      [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Oct/0000.html

   yves: action is done, but awaiting comments on this post

   df: close this action and pass actions to other data category
   holders

   <scribe> ACTION: phil to apply its tool to proveance agents
   [recorded in
   [9]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-240 - Apply its tool to proveance
   agents [on Phil Ritchie - due 2012-10-08].

   <scribe> ACTION: declan to apply its tool to mt confidence
   [recorded in
   [10]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-241 - Apply its tool to mt confidence
   [on Declan Groves - due 2012-10-08].

   <scribe> ACTION: phil to apply its tool to quality data
   catefories [recorded in
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-242 - Apply its tool to quality data
   catefories [on Phil Ritchie - due 2012-10-08].

   <scribe> ACTION: tadej to apply its tool to disambiguation
   [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-243 - Apply its tool to
   disambiguation [on Tadej Štajner - due 2012-10-08].

   daveL: so each of the above should provide an additonal example
   showing use of its tools

   df: except for mtconfidence score where it is matatory and
   should therefore replace the exisitng action
   ... tadej action is already covered by 236
   ... have now covered all actions not covered by issues, now to
   cover issues
   ... issue 42 cvored already

   <Arle> I'm having audio problems with the call. If I don't
   answer, that may be why. It's coming and going for me.

   df: issue 48 in counting linebreak

   yves: have provided solutions though have not had much feedback
   ... consider it resolved

   <dF> EBCEDIC

   df: unless there are objections to using the EBCEDIC value then
   close the issue 48
   ... issue 51 on too many global rules

   <dF> Dave: Shaun's action on canonical names.. Thi should be
   probably extended as an annex

   <dF> .. we should have a table to start managing this.

   <dF> .. we do not have a canonical way how to couple HTML and
   XML attributes

   <dF> .. it is obvious now, but there is actually no formal way
   to connect them

   <dF> Shaun: in the spec?

   <dF> Dave: it can be a normative annex

   <dF> .. we do not say which HTML attribute corresponds to what
   XML attribute.

   <scribe> ACTION: shaunm to extend his action for canonical data
   category list with canonical list of data attributes [recorded
   in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]

   <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find shaunm. You can review and
   register nicknames at
   <[14]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/u
   sers>.

     [14] http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/users%3E.

   yves: this topic has somewhat overridden the more general
   problem of having too many global rules with bad practice of
   selectors in global rules that break if the document is changes
   ... will provide an example of this problems

   df: should these be two separate issues

   yves: yes, it should be a separate issue, I had pointed this
   out in response to provenance proposals

   df: we need felix to split the issue

   <scribe> ACTION: felix to split the issue of pointers from the
   issue of too many poor global rules as suggested by Yves
   [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-244 - Split the issue of pointers
   from the issue of too many poor global rules as suggested by
   Yves [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-10-08].

   df: there is an issue with use of keyword for domain info
   compared to dc.subject

   yves: points out that keyword is a list of items rather than
   just one, so this doesn't work with out domain mapping issue

   df: this needs a solution, but non offered on call

   <Jirka> [16]http://www.tortoisecvs.org/

     [16] http://www.tortoisecvs.org/

   <Arle> ACTION: Arle to circulate editorial sequence for
   sections in editors' meeting [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-245 - Circulate editorial sequence
   for sections in editors' meeting [on Arle Lommel - due
   2012-10-08].

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Arle to circulate editorial sequence for sections
   in editors' meeting [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]
   [NEW] ACTION: arle to complete action 225 based on input from
   tadej [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: declan to apply its tool to mt confidence
   [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: felix to split the issue of pointers from the
   issue of too many poor global rules as suggested by Yves
   [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]
   [NEW] ACTION: phil to apply its tool to proveance agents
   [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: phil to apply its tool to quality data catefories
   [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: shaunm to extend his action for canonical data
   category list with canonical list of data attributes [recorded
   in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]
   [NEW] ACTION: tadej to apply its tool to disambiguation
   [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]

   [End of minutes]
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