- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:27:42 +0100
- To: "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>, Mārcis Pinnis <marcis.pinnis@Tilde.lv>, "tadej.stajner@ijs.si" <tadej.stajner@ijs.si>
- Message-ID: <50B78CFE.3090000@w3.org>
Hi all, esp. Mārcis and Tadej (since there are questions for you below),
see the minutes from today's editing call here
http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html
and below. Two important questions
1) Esp. for Mārcis: can you have a look at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0254.html
question no 2), and tell us what you think?
2) Esp. for Tadej: you said that in the global section of disambiguation
we should add disambigSource
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0234.html
but we realized that we don't know how. In the global section there is
no mention of "mode 1" and "mode ".
Can you re-write the definition of global in disambiguation
[
*
A required |selector| attribute that contains an absolute selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
which selects the nodes to which this rule applies.
*
An optional |disambigGranularity| attribute that contains a string,
specifying the granularity level of the disambiguation. The value
MUST
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#rfc2119>
be one of the following identifiers: "lexicalConcept",
"ontologyConcept", or "entity". The default value is "entity".
*
At least one of the following:
o
To specify the target type class, exactly one of the following:
+
A |disambigClassPointer| attribute that contains a relative
selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
pointing to a node specifying the type of entity or concept
class behind the selector.
+
A |disambigClassRefPointer| attribute that contains a
relative selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
pointing to a node that holds an IRI that specifies the type
of entity or concept class behind the selector.
o
To specify the target identity, exactly one of the following:
+
A |disambigIdentPointer| attribute that contains a relative
selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
pointing to a node that represents a unique identifier for
the disambiguation target.
+
A |disambigIdentRefPointer| attribute that contains a
relative selector
<http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#selectors>
pointing to a node that holds an IRI that represents a
unique identifier for the disambiguation target.
]
so that the two modes and disambigSource are in here?
Having that by Friday end of business day would be great. We then would
be finished with the normative parts of the draft.
Thanks,
Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
MLW-LT editing call
29 Nov 2012
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc
Attendees
Present
dave, felix, jirka, tadej, karl, Yves_
Regrets
Chair
felix
Scribe
fsasaki
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]questions from yesterday
2. [5]8.13 External Resource
3. [6]8.14 Target Pointer
4. [7]8.15 Id Value
5. [8]8.16 Preserve Space
6. [9]8.17 Localization Quality Issue
7. [10]8.18 Localization Quality Rating
8. [11]validation of example files
9. [12]8.19 MT Confidence
10. [13]back to rating data category
11. [14]allowed characters + storage size (again)
12. [15]going back to rating value
13. [16]spec editing topics
14. [17]disambigSourcePointer
* [18]Summary of Action Items
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<scribe> scribe: fsasaki
questions from yesterday
dave sent out mail to confirm confidence score for terminology,
as discussed yesterday
<Yves_> FWIW: we'll implement confidence it in Okapi in needed
now on action-339
provRef as single URI or list of URI?
"Reference to external provenance information"
"AN IRI" > "A space separated list of IRIs"
<Yves_> then the examples need to be changed too
<Yves_> I reduced them all to a single IRI
"A space (U+0020) separated list of IRIs"
Yves_, currently changing just one example -
EX-provenance-local-1.xml, to have a space separated list
8.13 External Resource
nothing on external resource, it seems
8.14 Target Pointer
nothing on target pointer, it seems
8.15 Id Value
mail from fredrik
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt/2012Nov/0250.html
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Nov/0250.html
<Yves_> +1 for Jirka's comment
changing the id value section to say: "If the attribute xml:id
is present or id in HTML for the selected node, the value of
the xml:id attribute or id in HTML MUST take precedence over
the idValue value."
that's everyting on id value section, it seems
<Yves_> One note for later (Storage Size section): "Dominican
Replubic" should Dominican Republic" in example
EX-storageSize-html5-local-1.html
Applying the id value data category to xml:id (in XML) or id
(in HTML) attributes in global rules is not necessary since
those attributes are ...
Yves_, thanks, we will take that up later, now 8.16 Preserve
Space
8.16 Preserve Space
added a link from "xml:space" to
[20]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-white-space
[20] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-white-space
8.17 Localization Quality Issue
"locQualityIssuesRefPointer, do not apply to HTML" >
locQualityIssuesRefPointer does not apply to HTML
"ITS 2.0-compliant tools that use these categories" > "ITS
2.0-compliant tools that use these types"
"their internal categories" > "their internal types"
replacing other occurences of "categories" with "types"
8.18 Localization Quality Rating
felix: looks fine
dave: changed after yesterday's discussion
<Yves_> I have to leave for the office now. I may be back
online in 20/30 mn (depending on how many coyotes I have to
fend off on the bike path)
thanks, bye, Yves_
validation of example files
jirka: did add a target for validation
... need someone to fix the errors
<scribe> ACTION: felix to check examples found by relax ng
validation [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-340 - Check examples found by relax
ng validation [on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06].
<scribe> ACTION: felix to check syntax highlighting of html
examples with focus on quotes - due 31 december [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-341 - check syntax highlighting of
html examples with focus on quotes [on Felix Sasaki - due
2012-12-31].
jirka: now have created xml validation, after last call
publication will work on html validation
8.19 MT Confidence
going through the three sections 8.19 MT Confidence, 8.20
Allowed Characters, 8.21 Storage size
dave: for the example EX-mtConfidence-global-html5-1.html would
be good to have an example with two different attributes with
text content, in the same element
... e.g. title and alt in an image
<scribe> ACTION: daveL to create mt confidence score example as
described in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 - due 31
december [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40
<trackbot> Created ACTION-342 - create mt confidence score
example as described in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 on David
Lewis - due 2012-12-31].
[25] http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40
back to rating data category
jirka: in spec the locQualityRatingScore value is between 0 and
100
... yestedays call we said between 0 and 1
... which one is true?
<scribe> ACTION: felix to check with yves whether
locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-343 - Check with yves whether
locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100
[on Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06].
action-343: also relevant for locQualityRatingScoreThreshold
<trackbot> ACTION-343 Check with yves whether
locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100
notes added
allowed characters + storage size (again)
allowed characters looks fine
"nel for NEXT LINE (U+0085)" - need to check code for nel
seems to be correct
went through all data categories, only topic left is
locQualityRatingScore value, see above
going back to rating value
yves: phil mentioned that des wanted something between 0-100
... from my point of view it doesn't matter
... that is, the spec would be right, I didn't change it
spec editing topics
yve: val and quote have strange behavior
"A disambigIdentPointer attribute that contains a relative
selector pointing to a node that represents a unique identifier
for the disambiguation target." plus disambigSourcePointer
<scribe> ACTION: felix to write mail today to tadej to confirm
position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-344 - Write mail today to tadej to
confirm position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [on
Felix Sasaki - due 2012-12-06].
disambigSourcePointer
<fsasaki_> need to check with tadej about this
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: daveL to create mt confidence score example as
described in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40 - due 31
december [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to check examples found by relax ng
validation [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to check syntax highlighting of html
examples with focus on quotes - due 31 december [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to check with yves whether
locQualityRatingScore should be between 0 and 1 or 0 and 100
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to write mail today to tadej to confirm
position of disambigSourcePointer in global rules [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2012/11/29-mlw-lt-irc#T14-50-40
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