Re: Is our non-interference proposal already covered in WCAG COnformance Requirement 5

On 10/11/2016 11:31, David MacDonald wrote:
> I don't understand this sentence
> "This criterion differs from the Touch with AT success criterion, in
> that the Touch with AT requires users not to use gestures, as the
> platform AT may block them."

Tried to clarify this a bit more. These notes are meant for the WCAG WG, 
so also clarified that.

https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/m14/SCs/m14.md

P


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> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Patrick H. Lauke
> <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>> wrote:
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>     On 07/11/2016 12:23, Kathy Wahlbin wrote:
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>         I agree that we should include a note for the working group.
>         Patrick - can you add that in Github?
>
>
>     Done. I've also tried to include the desktop/role="application"
>     scenario, as discussed in the call last week. Updated changes:
>
>     https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/m14/SCs/m14.md
>     <https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/m14/SCs/m14.md>
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>     P
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>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk
>         <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>]
>         Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 10:26 AM
>         To: public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org
>         <mailto:public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org>
>         Subject: Re: Is our non-interference proposal already covered in
>         WCAG COnformance Requirement 5
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>         On 05/11/2016 10:15, David MacDonald wrote:
>
>             I've been looking at the non-interference  proposal,
>
>             https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/d9ecc74431ee
>             <https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/d9ecc74431ee>
>             5bef084b51256468838b1d9a773a/SCs/m14.md <http://m14.md>
>             <https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/d9ecc74431e
>             <https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/d9ecc74431e>
>             e5bef084b51256468838b1d9a773a/SCs/m14.md <http://m14.md>>
>
>             it appears we may cover this in WCAG 2 in the conformance
>             requirements.
>
>             https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#cc5
>             <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#cc5>
>             <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#cc5
>             <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#cc5>>
>
>
>         For the touch scenario (where a native app can completely
>         override Touch AT's gesture recognition), this is arguably
>         covered by
>
>         "If technologies are used in a way that is not accessibility
>         supported, or if they are used in a non-conforming way, then
>         they do not block the ability of users to access the rest of the
>         page."
>
>         However, it's not clearly called out, and ensuring that
>         (particularly
>         touch) AT isn't blocked/circumvented is not explicitly covered
>         in the list of SCs that still need to apply to all page content
>         (1.4.2, 2.1.2, 2.3.1, 2.2.2).
>
>         I'm wondering if we should add this concern (that we think the
>         SC we're proposing *may* already be covered by this clause 5) to
>         our description of the SC as a note to the working group. Having
>         said all that, not having an SC and instead having the concern
>         addressed by wording that's admittedly buried a bit is not
>         ideal...I know many developers who will simply go through the
>         list of actual SCs and never bother to read the additional stuff...
>
>         P
>
>             I'm trying to think of a scenario of something not covered
>             in our
>             current WCAG Conformance Requirement of non-interence that
>             would be
>             covered in our proposal ... I don't have one yet.
>
>             Thoughts?
>
>             Cheers,
>             David MacDonald
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