Re: Is our non-interference proposal already covered in WCAG COnformance Requirement 5

I don't understand this sentence
"This criterion differs from the Touch with AT success criterion, in that
the Touch with AT requires users not to use gestures, as the platform AT
may block them."

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
wrote:

> On 07/11/2016 12:23, Kathy Wahlbin wrote:
>
>> I agree that we should include a note for the working group.  Patrick -
>> can you add that in Github?
>>
>
> Done. I've also tried to include the desktop/role="application" scenario,
> as discussed in the call last week. Updated changes:
>
> https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/m14/SCs/m14.md
>
> P
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk]
>> Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 10:26 AM
>> To: public-mobile-a11y-tf@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Is our non-interference proposal already covered in WCAG
>> COnformance Requirement 5
>>
>> On 05/11/2016 10:15, David MacDonald wrote:
>>
>>> I've been looking at the non-interference  proposal,
>>>
>>> https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/d9ecc74431ee
>>> 5bef084b51256468838b1d9a773a/SCs/m14.md
>>> <https://github.com/chriscm2006/Mobile-A11y-Extension/blob/d9ecc74431e
>>> e5bef084b51256468838b1d9a773a/SCs/m14.md>
>>>
>>> it appears we may cover this in WCAG 2 in the conformance requirements.
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#cc5 <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#cc5>
>>>
>>
>> For the touch scenario (where a native app can completely override Touch
>> AT's gesture recognition), this is arguably covered by
>>
>> "If technologies are used in a way that is not accessibility supported,
>> or if they are used in a non-conforming way, then they do not block the
>> ability of users to access the rest of the page."
>>
>> However, it's not clearly called out, and ensuring that (particularly
>> touch) AT isn't blocked/circumvented is not explicitly covered in the
>> list of SCs that still need to apply to all page content (1.4.2, 2.1.2,
>> 2.3.1, 2.2.2).
>>
>> I'm wondering if we should add this concern (that we think the SC we're
>> proposing *may* already be covered by this clause 5) to our description of
>> the SC as a note to the working group. Having said all that, not having an
>> SC and instead having the concern addressed by wording that's admittedly
>> buried a bit is not ideal...I know many developers who will simply go
>> through the list of actual SCs and never bother to read the additional
>> stuff...
>>
>> P
>>
>> I'm trying to think of a scenario of something not covered in our
>>> current WCAG Conformance Requirement of non-interence that would be
>>> covered in our proposal ... I don't have one yet.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
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>>>
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