Re: Proposal: expanding/modifying Guideline 2.1 and its SCs (2.1.1, 2.1.2, 2.1.3) to cover Touch+AT

gregg

> And here's where I think YOU are misunderstanding. Because when I use, say, VoiceOver on iOS and I swipe left/right, the browser's focus is moved BUT no "fake" TAB/SHIFT+TAB or fake CURSOR LEFT/RIGHT key even is sent. It does not emulate a keyboard, it simply moves the focus.

of course

and if you touch the screen it doesnt tab to the item and hit spacebar.  


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> The same is also true for certain other interaction modes, like speech recognition when instead of "press TAB, press TAB" etc the user actually says which button/control they want to activate...the AT does not fire a series of faked keyboard events, but instead simply moves the focus to that particular control and then fires the click event.

yep. 

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> So, having said all this, you seem to be saying that as far as you're concerned, the current WCAG 2.0 2.1, 2.1.1, 2.1.2, 2.1.3 already implicitly cover touch+AT (swipes) etc? Well in that case, my change should be fine since I'm only making it more explicit, no?

Nope — not saying that at all.  

Just saying that the SWIPE provision is a completely different issue from the keyboard interface one. 

 SWIPE is not an alternative  solution to keyboard interface requirement.  
It is a different parallel issue. 

We need Keyboard Interface requirement (for all the reasons mentioned) 

We may ALSO need a SEPARATE requirement to address an issue where SWIPE should work but doesnt — for that user group - but SWIPE won’t address the problem of keyboard interface access. 


There was a good description of the need for something for SWIPE support in other email — but I don’t think I have heard the actual problem well stated.   I’m not saying it wasn’t —   I have so many projects I don’t get to read all of the emails though I try to read all of them on a thread before responding. 

Can you/someone state clearly (or repost) the description of the problem we are talking about creating this SC to solve? 

thanks 


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