- From: Florian Stegmaier <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>
- Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:48:50 +0100
- To: "Bailer, Werner" <werner.bailer@joanneum.at>
- Cc: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>, "Höffernig, Martin" <Martin.Hoeffernig@joanneum.at>, "tmichel@w3.org" <tmichel@w3.org>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>
Hi all! Sorry, but i am a little bit confused - the RDF file needs revision, right? Would be nice if somebody could undertake this part since i have to check the JSON file. Cheers. _____________________________ Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier Chair of Distributed Information Systems University of Passau Innstr. 43 94032 Passau Room 248 ITZ Tel.: +49 851 509 3063 Fax: +49 851 509 3062 stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/ http://twitter.com/fstegmai _____________________________ Am 02.02.2012 um 13:47 schrieb Bailer, Werner: > Felix, to clarify this: ma:identifer is part of the spec, but there is no corresponding element in the RDF vocabulary. The reference [1] cited by Martin states: > > “(1) The identifier of a media resource is represented in RDF by the URI of the node representing that media resource. If a resource is identified by several URI, owl:sameAs should be used.” > > The identifier can be expressed by rdf:about on the ma:MediaResource node (see other examples, e.g. the mapping of dc:identifier). As the note above states, if you have several identifiers, use owl:sameAs (see e.g. the MPEG-7 example). > > Best regards, > Werner > > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/PR-mediaont-10-20111129/#correspondance-id1 > > Von: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 02. Februar 2012 13:42 > An: Höffernig, Martin > Cc: Florian Stegmaier; tmichel@w3.org; Bailer, Werner; public-media-annotation@w3.org > Betreff: Re: XMP example and XMP JSON response files don't seem to be in sync. > > Just to make sure I understand: ma:identifier is at > http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/PR-mediaont-10-20111129/#core-property-definitions > and in the mapping tables e.g. at > http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/PR-mediaont-10-20111129/#xmp-table > but not part of the spec? > > I am happy to remove ma:identifier from the XMP example(s), but want to be sure I am doing the right thing. > > Felix > > > 2012/2/2 Höffernig, Martin <Martin.Hoeffernig@joanneum.at> > Dear Felix, all, > > I have checked the RDF and TTL version of the XMP example. > Both ontology files (RDF and TTL version) contain the property ma:identifier in connection with 3 different identifier values (xmp:Identifier 1, xmp:Identifier 2, xmp:Identifier 3). > However, property ma:identifier is no longer part of ma ontology spec [1]. > > [1]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/PR-mediaont-10-20111129/#correspondance-id1 > > Best, > Martin > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Florian Stegmaier [mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de] > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 02. Februar 2012 10:40 > > An: tmichel@w3.org > > Cc: Felix Sasaki; Bailer, Werner; public-media-annotation@w3.org > > Betreff: Re: XMP example and XMP JSON response files don't seem to be > > in sync. > > > > Hi Thierry, all, > > > > at the moment, Martin is checking the RDF file. In case the RDF file is > > correct (which i think it will be), i will check the JSON response, if > > it fits to the current RDF version. I will send you my findings later. > > > > Cheers. > > _____________________________ > > Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier > > Chair of Distributed Information Systems University of Passau Innstr. > > 43 > > 94032 Passau > > > > Room 248 ITZ > > > > Tel.: +49 851 509 3063 > > Fax: +49 851 509 3062 > > > > stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de > > https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/ > > http://twitter.com/fstegmai > > _____________________________ > > > > Am 02.02.2012 um 10:38 schrieb Thierry MICHEL: > > > > > Felix, > > > > > > I have republished the XMP .rdf and .ttl file from > > > http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical- > > mapped > > > -to-mawg-by-xslt.ttl > > > and > > > http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical- > > mapped > > > -to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf > > > > > > to > > > > > http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xm > > > p-canonical-mapped-to-mawg.ttl > > > > > http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xm > > > p-canonical-mapped-to-mawg.rdf > > > > > > these RDf and TTL files seem identical to the former ones. > > > > > > > > > I hope it is also the case for the corresponding JSON response > > > > > http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API10/JSON/normativ > > > e_json_ma_xmp.json > > > > > > Because I have used this file to make the testsuite ... > > > > > > Thierry. > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 02/02/2012 09:31, Felix Sasaki a écrit : > > >> Thierry, Florian, all, > > >> > > >> I have generated the .rdf and .ttl file from the .xml file > > >> automatically, these are definitely in sync. Florian, could you > > >> re-generate the JSON file from > > >> <http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-** > > >> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/~s > > >> asaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf> > > >>> > > >> ? > > >> > > >> Then we are sure that everything is OK. > > >> > > >> Felix > > >> > > >> 2012/1/31 Thierry Michel<tmichel@w3.org> > > >> > > >>> Felix, > > >>> > > >>> could you please check that the 4 files are indeed in sync > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/** > > >>> metadata_formats/xmp-**canonical- > > original.xml<http://www.w3.org/2008 > > >>> /WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical- > > original > > >>> .xml>< > > >>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_** > > >>> test_canonical.xml<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xs > > >>> lt/MAWG_test_canonical.xml> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/** > > >>> metadata_formats/xmp-**canonical-mapped-to- > > mawg.rdf<http://www.w3.or > > >>> g/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical- > > ma > > >>> pped-to-mawg.rdf>< > > >>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-** > > >>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/% > > >>> 7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/** > > >>> metadata_formats/xmp-**canonical-mapped-to- > > mawg.ttl<http://www.w3.or > > >>> g/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical- > > ma > > >>> pped-to-mawg.ttl>< > > >>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-** > > >>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.ttl<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/% > > >>> 7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.ttl> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/** > > >>> > > API10/JSON/normative_json_ma_**xmp.json<http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVi > > >>> deo/Annotations/drafts/API10/JSON/normative_json_ma_xmp.json> > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> I would not want to have to redo the alll test suite ... > > >>> > > >>> Thierry > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Felix Sasaki a écrit : > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> 2012/1/31 Thierry Michel<tmichel@w3.org<mailto:tmichel@w3.org>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Felix, > > >>>> > > >>>> I have just published the RDF file you have sent. > > >>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/** > > >>>> metadata_formats/xmp-**canonical- > > original.xml<http://www.w3.org/200 > > >>>> 8/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical- > > origin > > >>>> al.xml> > > >>>> > > >>>> But I am getting lost now with your new wording. > > >>>> > > >>>> Could you please send me the apropriate 4 files in sync ASAP > > >>>> > > >>>> XMP- xml > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> See http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_** > > >>>> test_canonical.xml<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xsl > > >>>> t/MAWG_test_canonical.xml>< > > >>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/MAWG_** > > >>>> test_canonical.xml<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/x > > >>>> slt/MAWG_test_canonical.xml> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> XMP- rdf > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> See http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-** > > >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/ > > >>>> ~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf>< > > >>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-** > > >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/ > > >>>> %7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> XMP- ttl > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> See http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-** > > >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.ttl<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/ > > >>>> ~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.ttl>< > > >>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-** > > >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.ttl<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/ > > >>>> %7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.ttl> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> XMP- JSON > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> As Florian pointed out, this file has not changed. It has been > > >>>> generated by Florian from the RDF, so I cannot re-generate it. > > >>>> > > >>>> Best, > > >>>> > > >>>> Felix > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I am working on the implementation report and I must have the > > >>>> final files to work on these. > > >>>> > > >>>> thanks you. > > >>>> > > >>>> thierry > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Felix Sasaki a écrit : > > >>>> > > >>>> Yes indeed :) > > >>>> > > >>>> Felix > > >>>> > > >>>> 2012/1/31 Florian Stegmaier<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > passau.**de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > pas > > >>>> sau.de> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > pas > > >>>> sau.de> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > pas > > >>>> sau.de> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Hi Felix, all! > > >>>> > > >>>> In that case, Thierry should use the file as it was ;) > > >>>> > > >>>> Cheers. > > >>>> _____________________________ > > >>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier > > >>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems > > >>>> University of Passau > > >>>> Innstr. 43 > > >>>> 94032 Passau > > >>>> > > >>>> Room 248 ITZ > > >>>> > > >>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063<tel:%2B49%20851%20509%203063> > > >>>> <tel:%2B49%20851%20509%203063> > > >>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062<tel:%2B49%20851%20509%203062> > > >>>> <tel:%2B49%20851%20509%203062> > > >>>> > > >>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.**de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > passau.de> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > pas > > >>>> sau.de> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > pas > > >>>> sau.de> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > pas > > >>>> sau.de> > > >>>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni- > > **passau.de/iris/<https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/> > > >>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai > > >>>> _____________________________ > > >>>> > > >>>> Am 31.01.2012 um 13:02 schrieb Felix Sasaki: > > >>>> > > >>>> > This was an error in the XSLT that generates the RDF > > from the > > >>>> original XMP. I have fixed this now, see > > >>>> > > > >>>> > http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/> > > >>>> > > >>>> <http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/<http://fabd > > >>>> ay.fh-potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/<http://fabd > > >>>> ay.fh-potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~**sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp- > > >>>> **canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/~sasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by- > > xslt.rdf> > > >>>> > > >>>> <http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%**7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-** > > >>>> canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-**xslt.rdf<http://fabday.fh- > > potsdam.de/ > > >>>> %7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf> > > >>>>> > > >>>> <http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%** > > >>>> 7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp-**canonical-mapped-to-mawg-by- > > **xslt.rdf > > >>>> <http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/%7Esasaki/mawg/xmp/xslt/xmp- > > canonical- > > >>>> mapped-to-mawg-by-xslt.rdf> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Florian, I guess you when need to regenerate the JSON > > >>>> from above > > >>>> RDF. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Felix > > >>>> > > > >>>> > 2012/1/31 Bailer, Werner<werner.bailer@joanneum.at > > >>>> > > <mailto:werner.bailer@**joanneum.at<werner.bailer@joanneum.at>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:werner.bailer@**joanneum.at<werner.bailer@joanneum.at> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:werner.bailer@**joanneum.at<werner.bailer@joanneum.at>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > For some reason, the additional identifiers from the > > original > > >>>> XMP files were dropped in the RDF rather than having > > multiple > > >>>> identifiers, there is a comment instead > > >>>> <!--xmp:Identifier--> in > > >>>> the RDF. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Best regards, > > >>>> > Werner > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > >>>> > > Von: Florian Stegmaier > > >>>> [mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > **passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > pas > > >>>> sau.de> > > >>>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > **passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de<stegmai@dimis.fim.uni- > > pas > > >>>> sau.de> > > >>>>>> ] > > >>>> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Jänner 2012 12:27 > > >>>> > > An: tmichel@w3.org<mailto:tmichel@w3.org> > > >>>> <mailto:tmichel@w3.org<mailto:tmichel@w3.org>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Cc: Felix Sasaki; public-media-annotation@w3.org > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:public-media-**annotation@w3.org<public-media- > > annotation@w3 > > >>>> .org> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:public-media-**annotation@w3.org<public-media- > > annotation@w3 > > >>>> .org> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> <mailto:public-media-**annotation@w3.org<public-media- > > annotation@w3 > > >>>> .org> > > >>>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Betreff: Re: XMP example and XMP JSON response > > files don't > > >>>> seem to be in > > >>>> > > sync. > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Hi Thierry, > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > yes, i have already told you that this is is a > > relict > > >>>> before > > >>>> our decision to use > > >>>> > > the RDF data set as basis. Please use the attached > > >>>> version of > > >>>> the JSON > > >>>> > > instead. In any case, the information of the RDF > > shall be > > >>>> reflected in the > > >>>> > > JSON. > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Are there also difficulties because of *-a/*-b > > test cases? > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Cheers. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > -- > > >>>> > Felix Sasaki > > >>>> > DFKI / W3C Fellow > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- Felix Sasaki > > >>>> DFKI / W3C Fellow > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Felix Sasaki > > >>>> DFKI / W3C Fellow > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > -- > Felix Sasaki > DFKI / W3C Fellow
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