- From: Daniel Park <soohongp@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:04:34 +0900
- To: tmichel@w3.org
- Cc: Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk73@gmail.com>, Sebastian Schaffert <sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at>, Florian Stegmaier <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>, public-media-annotation@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAHSr+v1YKB2FMTU=3MJg7=u6FjY==a6wvPu+NDYLhJLpthqnwQ@mail.gmail.com>
That sounds reasonable. Let's fill up the new link as ATOM format for
youtube mapping later on.
Regards, Daniel.
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
> I have removed the creator entry for You Tube.
>
> creator exact /atom:entry/atom:author/@uri creator:@url
>
> It is now back as it was in the PR version.
> creator N/A N/A
>
> see at
> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/**
> ontology10/REC/#youtube-table<http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/REC/#youtube-table>
>
>
> If we want to introduce a new mapping with atom, will will publish it in
> the "list of candidate formats with additional mappings is available".
> (linked from the REC
>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/**WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/**
> ontology10/additional-**mappings.html<http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/additional-mappings.html>
>
> Thierry.
>
> Le 01/02/2012 23:45, Wonsuk Lee a écrit :
>
> Hi. Thierry.
>>
>> 2012/2/2 Thierry MICHEL<tmichel@w3.org>:
>>
>>> It is now way too late to introduce a new mapping table in the REC
>>> document.
>>> AC reps have voted on the PR document and we are not allowed to introduce
>>> more stuff into the specification apart from small editorial bugs fix.
>>>
>>> I propose that we leave the spec as is. I will remove the creator entry
>>> in
>>> the YouTube mapping.
>>>
>>> creator exact /atom:entry/atom:author/@uri creator:@url
>>>
>>> We can add a new mapping table with ATOM format in the appropriate
>>> document
>>> linked from the REC document.
>>>
>>>
>> Sure. That is what I would like to say ;)
>>
>> best regards,
>> Wonsuk.
>>
>>
>>> Thierry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 01/02/2012 19:09, Wonsuk Lee a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi. Sebastian.
>>>> Thanks a lot for good comments.
>>>>
>>>> I think in case of youtube metadata format, we need to provide two
>>>> different mapping table for RSS format and ATOM format. Because
>>>> metadata description for media with one format like RSS or ATOM is
>>>> appropriate than mixed description with both format.
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> best regards,
>>>> Wonsuk.
>>>>
>>>> 2012/1/31 Sebastian Schaffert<sebastian.schaffert@**salzburgresearch.at<sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at>
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> while implementing a YouTube-Media Ontology mapper, I encountered the
>>>>> following additional problems:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. ATOM Protocol
>>>>>
>>>>> YouTube nowadays uses the ATOM protocol as default, not RSS (still
>>>>> available as secondary protocol though)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Keywords (ma-ont:keyword)
>>>>>
>>>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:**keywords
>>>>>
>>>>> YouTube will return a single value with a comma-separated list of
>>>>> keywords; in Media Ontology, this should be split into at least the
>>>>> individual keywords.
>>>>>
>>>>> An alternative offered by the YouTube Atom API would be
>>>>> /atom:entry/atom:category[@**scheme='http://gdata.youtube.**
>>>>> com/schemas/2007/keywords.cat'**]/@term<http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007/keywords.cat'%5D/@term>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Category (ma-ont:genre)
>>>>>
>>>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:**category
>>>>>
>>>>> YouTube returns the category as a string, but the reference defines
>>>>> that
>>>>> this string should be mapped to the YouTube Schema URI, i.e.
>>>>>
>>>>> if /atom:entry/media:group/media:**category = Music, then the mapping
>>>>> should be to http://gdata.youtube.com/**schemas/2007#Music<http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007#Music>
>>>>> ;
>>>>>
>>>>> reference:
>>>>> http://code.google.com/intl/**de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/**
>>>>> reference.html#youtube_data_**api_tag_category<http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/reference.html#youtube_data_api_tag_category>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Copyright (ma-ont:copyright)
>>>>>
>>>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:**license
>>>>>
>>>>> the YouTube API returns copyright information as media:license element.
>>>>> This could be mapped to the ma-ont:copyright property with a bit of
>>>>> transformation, because YouTube only offers two values, "cc" for
>>>>> creative
>>>>> commons and "youtube" for their own license.
>>>>>
>>>>> reference:
>>>>> http://code.google.com/intl/**de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/**
>>>>> reference.html#youtube_data_**api_tag_media:license<http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/reference.html#youtube_data_api_tag_media:license>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is my complete mapping implementation:
>>>>> private static Map<String,ValueMapper> mediaOntMappings = new
>>>>> HashMap<String, ValueMapper>();
>>>>> static {
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#**
>>>>> identifier <http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#identifier>", new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/atom:id"));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#title<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#title>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/atom:title"));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#locator<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#locator>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/**media:group/media:content/@**url")); //
>>>>> URI
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/**atom:author/@uri")); //
>>>>> URI
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#date<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#date>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/atom:published","**dateTime"));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#location<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#location>
>>>>> "**, new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/georss:where/gml:Point/**gml:pos"));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#**
>>>>> description <http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#description>",new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/media:group/media:**description"));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#keyword<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#keyword>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/atom:category[@scheme='h**
>>>>> ttp://gdata.youtube.com/**schemas/2007/keywords.cat']/@**term<http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007/keywords.cat'%5D/@term>
>>>>> "));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#genre<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#genre>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> YoutubeCategoryMapper("/atom:**entry/media:group/media:**category"));
>>>>> //
>>>>> URI, should be mapped to YouTube schemas
>>>>> (http://gdata.youtube.com/**schemas/2007#<http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007#>
>>>>> )
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#rating<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#rating>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/gd:rating/@average","**float"));
>>>>> //
>>>>> Float
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#copyright<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#copyright>
>>>>> **", new
>>>>> XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/**media:group/media:license/@**href"));
>>>>> //
>>>>> URI of license terms
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#publisher<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#publisher>
>>>>> **", new
>>>>> XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/**atom:author/@uri")); //
>>>>> URI
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#**
>>>>> compression <http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#compression>",new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/media:group/media:**
>>>>> content/@type"));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#duration<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#duration>
>>>>> "**, new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/media:group/media:**
>>>>> content/@duration","integer"))**;
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#format<http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#format>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/media:group/media:**
>>>>> content/@type"));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/thumbnail<http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/thumbnail>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/**media:group/media:thumbnail/@**url"));
>>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://**rdfs.org/sioc/ns#num_views<http://rdfs.org/sioc/ns#num_views>",
>>>>> new
>>>>> XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:**entry/yt:statistics/@**
>>>>> viewCount","integer"));
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> I will publish the source code as part of our Linked Media Framework as
>>>>> soon as our servers are running again :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 31.01.2012 um 12:55 schrieb Florian Stegmaier:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Thierry, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> our colleagues at Salzburg Research are using our ontology (and soon
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> API) in their Linked Media Framework. I have put Sebastian into CC.
>>>>>> He has
>>>>>> just send me the pointer, that there is a mapping for ma:creator. In
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> mapping table there is N/A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please refer to [1] and mapping would be as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri" -> "http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#**
>>>>>> creator <http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator>"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should discuss this in todays telecon. He will finalize his work on
>>>>>> YouTube today and will provide me his mappings as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://gdata.youtube.com/**feeds/api/videos/EM4vblG6BVQ<http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/EM4vblG6BVQ>
>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
>>>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
>>>>>> University of Passau
>>>>>> Innstr. 43
>>>>>> 94032 Passau
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Room 248 ITZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
>>>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.**de <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>
>>>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de/iris/<https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/>
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
>>>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
>>>>>> University of Passau
>>>>>> Innstr. 43
>>>>>> 94032 Passau
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Room 248 ITZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
>>>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.**de <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>
>>>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-**passau.de/iris/<https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/>
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>> --
>>>>> | Dr. Sebastian Schaffert
>>>>> sebastian.schaffert@**salzburgresearch.at<sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at>
>>>>> | Salzburg Research Forschungsgesellschaft
>>>>> http://www.salzburgresearch.at
>>>>> | Head of Knowledge and Media Technologies Group +43 662 2288
>>>>> 423
>>>>> | Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
>>>>> | A-5020 Salzburg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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