- From: Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk73@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 03:12:04 +0900
- To: Joakim Söderberg <joakim.soderberg@ericsson.com>
- Cc: "tmichel@w3.org" <tmichel@w3.org>, Florian Stegmaier <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>, Werner Bailer <werner.bailer@joanneum.at>
Hi. Joakim and all. 2012/2/2 Joakim Söderberg <joakim.soderberg@ericsson.com>: > Hi Thierry, > This kind of situation must be common, that technology that the spec > depend on changes. > +1 best regards, Wonsuk. > > On 1/31/12 9:49 AM, "Thierry Michel" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote: > >>As I don't have a clear view of the updates needed in the Ontology spec, >>unfortunatly I will delay the publication of the REC. >> >>It is not the time to introduce edits at last minute with clear >>resolution, which would introduce more bugs. >> >>Please editors of the Ontology pick up this subject. >> >>Thierry. >> >> >>Florian Stegmaier a écrit : >>> Hi Sebastian, Thierry, all, >>> >>> from my opinion we should also address Sebastians proposal for >>>ma-ont:copyright. As we discussed today, a complete switch to atom would >>>have an heavy effect on all files produced until now - so i would leave >>>it as is. Also the proposal to suggest the genre vocabulary is good, but >>>we didn´t suggest something like that in another format afaik. Maybe one >>>of the ontology editors could catch this discussion up? >>> >>> Cheers. >>> _____________________________ >>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier >>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems >>> University of Passau >>> Innstr. 43 >>> 94032 Passau >>> >>> Room 248 ITZ >>> >>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063 >>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062 >>> >>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de >>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/ >>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai >>> _____________________________ >>> >>> Am 31.01.2012 um 16:18 schrieb Thierry Michel: >>> >>> >>>> Here is the update line >>>> >>>> creator | exact | /atom:entry/atom:author/@uri | >>>>creator:@url | URI | N/A >>>> >>>> Please reveiw that this is OK, and that there is no need for further >>>>updates in the Ontology doc. >>>> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/REC/ >>>> >>>> Thierry >>>> >>>> >>>> Sebastian Schaffert a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> while implementing a YouTube-Media Ontology mapper, I encountered the >>>>>following additional problems: >>>>> >>>>> 1. ATOM Protocol >>>>> >>>>> YouTube nowadays uses the ATOM protocol as default, not RSS (still >>>>>available as secondary protocol though) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2. Keywords (ma-ont:keyword) >>>>> >>>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:keywords >>>>> >>>>> YouTube will return a single value with a comma-separated list of >>>>>keywords; in Media Ontology, this should be split into at least the >>>>>individual keywords. >>>>> An alternative offered by the YouTube Atom API would be >>>>>/atom:entry/atom:category[@scheme='http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/200 >>>>>7/keywords.cat']/@term >>>>> >>>>> 3. Category (ma-ont:genre) >>>>> >>>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:category >>>>> >>>>> YouTube returns the category as a string, but the reference defines >>>>>that this string should be mapped to the YouTube Schema URI, i.e. >>>>> if /atom:entry/media:group/media:category = Music, then the mapping >>>>>should be to http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007#Music; >>>>> reference: >>>>>http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/reference.html#youtu >>>>>be_data_api_tag_category >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 4. Copyright (ma-ont:copyright) >>>>> >>>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:license >>>>> >>>>> the YouTube API returns copyright information as media:license >>>>>element. This could be mapped to the ma-ont:copyright property with a >>>>>bit of transformation, because YouTube only offers two values, "cc" >>>>>for creative commons and "youtube" for their own license. >>>>> >>>>> reference: >>>>>http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/reference.html#youtu >>>>>be_data_api_tag_media:license >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is my complete mapping implementation: >>>>> private static Map<String,ValueMapper> mediaOntMappings = new >>>>>HashMap<String, ValueMapper>(); >>>>> static { >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#identifier", >>>>>new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:id")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#title", >>>>>new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:title")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#locator", >>>>>new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@url")); // >>>>>URI >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator", >>>>>new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri")); // >>>>>URI >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#date", >>>>>new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:published","dateTime")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#location", >>>>>new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/georss:where/gml:Point/gml:pos")); >>>>> >>>>>mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#description",new >>>>>XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:description")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#keyword", >>>>>new >>>>>XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:category[@scheme='http://gdata.you >>>>>tube.com/schemas/2007/keywords.cat']/@term")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#genre", >>>>>new YoutubeCategoryMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:category")); >>>>> // URI, should be mapped to YouTube schemas >>>>>(http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007#) >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#rating", >>>>>new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/gd:rating/@average","float")); >>>>> // Float >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#copyright", >>>>>new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:license/@href")); >>>>> // URI of license terms >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#publisher", >>>>>new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri")); // >>>>>URI >>>>> >>>>>mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#compression",new >>>>>XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@type")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#duration", >>>>>new >>>>>XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@duration","i >>>>>nteger")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#format", >>>>>new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@type")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/thumbnail", >>>>>new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:thumbnail/@url")); >>>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://rdfs.org/sioc/ns#num_views", >>>>>new >>>>>XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/yt:statistics/@viewCount","integer")); >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> I will publish the source code as part of our Linked Media Framework >>>>>as soon as our servers are running again :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 31.01.2012 um 12:55 schrieb Florian Stegmaier: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Thierry, all, >>>>>> >>>>>> our colleagues at Salzburg Research are using our ontology (and soon >>>>>>the API) in their Linked Media Framework. I have put Sebastian into >>>>>>CC. He has just send me the pointer, that there is a mapping for >>>>>>ma:creator. In our mapping table there is N/A. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please refer to [1] and mapping would be as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> "/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri" -> >>>>>>"http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator" >>>>>> >>>>>> We should discuss this in todays telecon. He will finalize his work >>>>>>on YouTube today and will provide me his mappings as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/EM4vblG6BVQ >>>>>> _____________________________ >>>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier >>>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems >>>>>> University of Passau >>>>>> Innstr. 43 >>>>>> 94032 Passau >>>>>> >>>>>> Room 248 ITZ >>>>>> >>>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063 >>>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062 >>>>>> >>>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de >>>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/ >>>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai >>>>>> _____________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _____________________________ >>>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier >>>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems >>>>>> University of Passau >>>>>> Innstr. 43 >>>>>> 94032 Passau >>>>>> >>>>>> Room 248 ITZ >>>>>> >>>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063 >>>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062 >>>>>> >>>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de >>>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/ >>>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai >>>>>> _____________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Sebastian >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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