- From: Sebastian Schaffert <sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at>
- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 22:51:27 +0100
- To: tmichel@w3.org
- Cc: Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk73@gmail.com>, Florian Stegmaier <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>, public-media-annotation@w3.org
Thierry, since especially the data formats on the Social Web change all the time, maybe it is anyways better to create a separate document for the mappings that can be updated whenever the data formats change and leave mappings out of the spec. Would this be reasonable? I think it does not make much sense to provide mappings for an old format that will eventually not be supported any more (even though I don't know what Google's policy on backwards compatibility is…). Greetings, Sebastian Am 01.02.2012 um 21:35 schrieb Thierry MICHEL: > It is now way too late to introduce a new mapping table in the REC document. > AC reps have voted on the PR document and we are not allowed to introduce more stuff into the specification apart from small editorial bugs fix. > > I propose that we leave the spec as is. I will remove the creator entry in the YouTube mapping. > creator exact /atom:entry/atom:author/@uri creator:@url > > We can add a new mapping table with ATOM format in the appropriate document linked from the REC document. > > > Thierry. > > > > Le 01/02/2012 19:09, Wonsuk Lee a écrit : >> Hi. Sebastian. >> Thanks a lot for good comments. >> >> I think in case of youtube metadata format, we need to provide two >> different mapping table for RSS format and ATOM format. Because >> metadata description for media with one format like RSS or ATOM is >> appropriate than mixed description with both format. >> What do you think? >> >> best regards, >> Wonsuk. >> >> 2012/1/31 Sebastian Schaffert<sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at>: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> while implementing a YouTube-Media Ontology mapper, I encountered the following additional problems: >>> >>> 1. ATOM Protocol >>> >>> YouTube nowadays uses the ATOM protocol as default, not RSS (still available as secondary protocol though) >>> >>> >>> 2. Keywords (ma-ont:keyword) >>> >>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:keywords >>> >>> YouTube will return a single value with a comma-separated list of keywords; in Media Ontology, this should be split into at least the individual keywords. >>> >>> An alternative offered by the YouTube Atom API would be /atom:entry/atom:category[@scheme='http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007/keywords.cat']/@term >>> >>> 3. Category (ma-ont:genre) >>> >>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:category >>> >>> YouTube returns the category as a string, but the reference defines that this string should be mapped to the YouTube Schema URI, i.e. >>> >>> if /atom:entry/media:group/media:category = Music, then the mapping should be to http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007#Music; >>> >>> reference: http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/reference.html#youtube_data_api_tag_category >>> >>> >>> 4. Copyright (ma-ont:copyright) >>> >>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:license >>> >>> the YouTube API returns copyright information as media:license element. This could be mapped to the ma-ont:copyright property with a bit of transformation, because YouTube only offers two values, "cc" for creative commons and "youtube" for their own license. >>> >>> reference: http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/reference.html#youtube_data_api_tag_media:license >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is my complete mapping implementation: >>> private static Map<String,ValueMapper> mediaOntMappings = new HashMap<String, ValueMapper>(); >>> static { >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#identifier", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:id")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#title", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:title")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#locator", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@url")); // URI >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri")); // URI >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#date", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:published","dateTime")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#location", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/georss:where/gml:Point/gml:pos")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#description",new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:description")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#keyword", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:category[@scheme='http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007/keywords.cat']/@term")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#genre", new YoutubeCategoryMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:category")); // URI, should be mapped to YouTube schemas (http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007#) >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#rating", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/gd:rating/@average","float")); // Float >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#copyright", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:license/@href")); // URI of license terms >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#publisher", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri")); // URI >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#compression",new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@type")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#duration", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@duration","integer")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#format", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@type")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/thumbnail", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:thumbnail/@url")); >>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://rdfs.org/sioc/ns#num_views", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/yt:statistics/@viewCount","integer")); >>> } >>> >>> I will publish the source code as part of our Linked Media Framework as soon as our servers are running again :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 31.01.2012 um 12:55 schrieb Florian Stegmaier: >>> >>>> Dear Thierry, all, >>>> >>>> our colleagues at Salzburg Research are using our ontology (and soon the API) in their Linked Media Framework. I have put Sebastian into CC. He has just send me the pointer, that there is a mapping for ma:creator. In our mapping table there is N/A. >>>> >>>> Please refer to [1] and mapping would be as follows: >>>> >>>> "/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri" -> "http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator" >>>> >>>> We should discuss this in todays telecon. He will finalize his work on YouTube today and will provide me his mappings as well. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> [1] http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/EM4vblG6BVQ >>>> _____________________________ >>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier >>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems >>>> University of Passau >>>> Innstr. 43 >>>> 94032 Passau >>>> >>>> Room 248 ITZ >>>> >>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063 >>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062 >>>> >>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de >>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/ >>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai >>>> _____________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _____________________________ >>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier >>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems >>>> University of Passau >>>> Innstr. 43 >>>> 94032 Passau >>>> >>>> Room 248 ITZ >>>> >>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063 >>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062 >>>> >>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de >>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/ >>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai >>>> _____________________________ >>>> >>> >>> Sebastian >>> -- >>> | Dr. Sebastian Schaffert sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at >>> | Salzburg Research Forschungsgesellschaft http://www.salzburgresearch.at >>> | Head of Knowledge and Media Technologies Group +43 662 2288 423 >>> | Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II >>> | A-5020 Salzburg >>> >>> >> Sebastian -- | Dr. Sebastian Schaffert sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at | Salzburg Research Forschungsgesellschaft http://www.salzburgresearch.at | Head of Knowledge and Media Technologies Group +43 662 2288 423 | Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II | A-5020 Salzburg
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