- From: Sebastian Schaffert <sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at>
- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 22:51:27 +0100
- To: tmichel@w3.org
- Cc: Wonsuk Lee <wonsuk73@gmail.com>, Florian Stegmaier <stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de>, public-media-annotation@w3.org
Thierry,
since especially the data formats on the Social Web change all the time, maybe it is anyways better to create a separate document for the mappings that can be updated whenever the data formats change and leave mappings out of the spec. Would this be reasonable? I think it does not make much sense to provide mappings for an old format that will eventually not be supported any more (even though I don't know what Google's policy on backwards compatibility is…).
Greetings,
Sebastian
Am 01.02.2012 um 21:35 schrieb Thierry MICHEL:
> It is now way too late to introduce a new mapping table in the REC document.
> AC reps have voted on the PR document and we are not allowed to introduce more stuff into the specification apart from small editorial bugs fix.
>
> I propose that we leave the spec as is. I will remove the creator entry in the YouTube mapping.
> creator exact /atom:entry/atom:author/@uri creator:@url
>
> We can add a new mapping table with ATOM format in the appropriate document linked from the REC document.
>
>
> Thierry.
>
>
>
> Le 01/02/2012 19:09, Wonsuk Lee a écrit :
>> Hi. Sebastian.
>> Thanks a lot for good comments.
>>
>> I think in case of youtube metadata format, we need to provide two
>> different mapping table for RSS format and ATOM format. Because
>> metadata description for media with one format like RSS or ATOM is
>> appropriate than mixed description with both format.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> best regards,
>> Wonsuk.
>>
>> 2012/1/31 Sebastian Schaffert<sebastian.schaffert@salzburgresearch.at>:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> while implementing a YouTube-Media Ontology mapper, I encountered the following additional problems:
>>>
>>> 1. ATOM Protocol
>>>
>>> YouTube nowadays uses the ATOM protocol as default, not RSS (still available as secondary protocol though)
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Keywords (ma-ont:keyword)
>>>
>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:keywords
>>>
>>> YouTube will return a single value with a comma-separated list of keywords; in Media Ontology, this should be split into at least the individual keywords.
>>>
>>> An alternative offered by the YouTube Atom API would be /atom:entry/atom:category[@scheme='http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007/keywords.cat']/@term
>>>
>>> 3. Category (ma-ont:genre)
>>>
>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:category
>>>
>>> YouTube returns the category as a string, but the reference defines that this string should be mapped to the YouTube Schema URI, i.e.
>>>
>>> if /atom:entry/media:group/media:category = Music, then the mapping should be to http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007#Music;
>>>
>>> reference: http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/reference.html#youtube_data_api_tag_category
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. Copyright (ma-ont:copyright)
>>>
>>> XPath: /atom:entry/media:group/media:license
>>>
>>> the YouTube API returns copyright information as media:license element. This could be mapped to the ma-ont:copyright property with a bit of transformation, because YouTube only offers two values, "cc" for creative commons and "youtube" for their own license.
>>>
>>> reference: http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/apis/youtube/2.0/reference.html#youtube_data_api_tag_media:license
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is my complete mapping implementation:
>>> private static Map<String,ValueMapper> mediaOntMappings = new HashMap<String, ValueMapper>();
>>> static {
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#identifier", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:id"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#title", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:title"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#locator", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@url")); // URI
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri")); // URI
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#date", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:published","dateTime"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#location", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/georss:where/gml:Point/gml:pos"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#description",new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:description"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#keyword", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/atom:category[@scheme='http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007/keywords.cat']/@term"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#genre", new YoutubeCategoryMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:category")); // URI, should be mapped to YouTube schemas (http://gdata.youtube.com/schemas/2007#)
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#rating", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/gd:rating/@average","float")); // Float
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#copyright", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:license/@href")); // URI of license terms
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#publisher", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri")); // URI
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#compression",new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@type"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#duration", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@duration","integer"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#format", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:content/@type"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/thumbnail", new XPathURIMapper("/atom:entry/media:group/media:thumbnail/@url"));
>>> mediaOntMappings.put("http://rdfs.org/sioc/ns#num_views", new XPathLiteralMapper("/atom:entry/yt:statistics/@viewCount","integer"));
>>> }
>>>
>>> I will publish the source code as part of our Linked Media Framework as soon as our servers are running again :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 31.01.2012 um 12:55 schrieb Florian Stegmaier:
>>>
>>>> Dear Thierry, all,
>>>>
>>>> our colleagues at Salzburg Research are using our ontology (and soon the API) in their Linked Media Framework. I have put Sebastian into CC. He has just send me the pointer, that there is a mapping for ma:creator. In our mapping table there is N/A.
>>>>
>>>> Please refer to [1] and mapping would be as follows:
>>>>
>>>> "/atom:entry/atom:author/@uri" -> "http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont#creator"
>>>>
>>>> We should discuss this in todays telecon. He will finalize his work on YouTube today and will provide me his mappings as well.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/EM4vblG6BVQ
>>>> _____________________________
>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
>>>> University of Passau
>>>> Innstr. 43
>>>> 94032 Passau
>>>>
>>>> Room 248 ITZ
>>>>
>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
>>>>
>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
>>>> _____________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _____________________________
>>>> Dipl. Inf. Florian Stegmaier
>>>> Chair of Distributed Information Systems
>>>> University of Passau
>>>> Innstr. 43
>>>> 94032 Passau
>>>>
>>>> Room 248 ITZ
>>>>
>>>> Tel.: +49 851 509 3063
>>>> Fax: +49 851 509 3062
>>>>
>>>> stegmai@dimis.fim.uni-passau.de
>>>> https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/iris/
>>>> http://twitter.com/fstegmai
>>>> _____________________________
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sebastian
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>>>
>>
Sebastian
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