RE: Agenda Low Vision Task Force 5 Sept 2019

Regrets this morning, conflict with work meeting again ☹

From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 4:05 AM
To: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>; public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Agenda Low Vision Task Force 5 Sept 2019

Hi Jim,

For the meeting I’ve created a spreadsheet to evaluate the examples:
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I think it would be very useful to get an ‘LVTF rating’ for each example.

That would basically be a score out of 10 for how visible each focus indicator is. Partly from LVTF members perceptions, but also informed by Andy’s analysis.

Then we can compare the different metrics/testing methods against the perceived visibility.

Cheers,

-Alastair


From: Jim Allan

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concern about Bad Result  on Examples 3, 5, 8, 12,

dotted vs solid, thickness, space between outline and object, etc. any research on any of the aspect.
any thoughts review it all, more examples, better examples.

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Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
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