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Re: How do we distinguish between I, l and 1 and 0 and O?

From: Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:47:04 -0700
Message-ID: <CAJeQ8SBs2PUkq9ma=Gi7GwkW0BR0ueCQghVz_Azt+4PQ+dCsYg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Cc: public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
How long will users be able to change font? What about when encapsulated
web components come in.

I don't understand the objection at all. The size issue is moot. The
semantic issue is identifiable. Namely, us <abbr>.

I don't know clear a violation of 1.3.1 can be. If someone puts an icon is
a place where it can be misinterpreted as text then it needs to be
identified semantically. It is conveying information with presentation only
and it gives no programmatic way to identify the information.

Font substitution is easily testable and with reasonable semantic support,
i.e. wrap icon fonts in <abbr title="icon meaning">icon</abbr>.

I do not see why we should drop font family at all.

Wayne





On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
wrote:

> Ø  but the user can still change the font, because they still have that
> ability.
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> Ø  we didn't take anything away from the user, we just didn't mention it.
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> But if the larger font family is cut off or overlaps then the text may not
> be readable.  Perhaps line spacing covers this slightly but is that enough?
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> Jonathan
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> *From:* Jim Allan [mailto:jimallan@tsbvi.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:47 PM
> *To:* Wayne Dick
> *Cc:* public-low-vision-a11y-tf
> *Subject:* Re: How do we distinguish between I, l and 1 and 0 and O?
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> but the user can still change the font, because they still have that
> ability.
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> we didn't take anything away from the user, we just didn't mention it.
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> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
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> If we drop font, and the author uses something like Arial, there are
> problems.
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> Wayne
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