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RE: Resize content responses (was agenda for telco)

From: Repsher, Stephen J <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:40:54 +0000
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <858efb74d902495ca58e5823478f7018@XCH15-08-08.nw.nos.boeing.com>
Occasionally, yes, but you're absolutely right that it's pretty rare and the sites that may have default large (or small) text probably aren't going around asking for professional audits.

In practice, it's probably not a big issue at all so I certainly wouldn't put it at the top of the priority list.  I just find it odd that we don't account for this in some way since it's not unrealistic to have text sizes on a page varying by as much as 1.5-2x (excluding headings).

Steve

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From: Alastair Campbell [mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:04 AM
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Subject: Re: Resize content responses (was agenda for telco)

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for that, I’ll use your additions.

Regarding the item about penalising content that is large by default, have you come across this? Ever?

In years of consulting I haven’t, but perhaps it is education or industry specific. In those cases, I wonder if the large text versions were alternative to a default version and therefore would be fine from a compliance point of view (and obviously fine from a practical point of view!)

Cheers,

-Alastair


On 27/04/2017, 01:49, "Repsher, Stephen J" <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com> wrote:

    Hi Alastair,
    
    I read your drafts and I think they're pretty good.  Here's a couple of comments on a few of the miscellaneous ones:
    
    * MS: It is unclear as to whether the 400% increase is measured by area or dimension. 
    Yes, this is admittedly ambiguous and there would be no harm in clarifying it to mean 4x in each dimension as is the convention across most software zoom features.
    
    * MS: The proposal text seems to penalize content that are made to be big by default in order to assist low-vision users 
    I agree.  It is problematic for this SC (and the existing one) to specify a relative size without regard for the original size.  Perhaps we could look into either establishing a reference point based on the smallest text size on the page or use an alternate unit of measure.
    
    . What does this imply about the magnifier feature from the OS? Is it trying to say that two-dimensional scrolling is ok (and magnifier features are appropriate) once the need goes beyond 4x? 
    No, we simply believe 400% is reasonably achievable by content authors (right?).
    
    Steve
    
    
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    From: Alastair Campbell [mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com] 
    Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 7:35 PM
    To: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>; public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
    Subject: Re: Agenda: Low Vision Task Force 27 Apr 2017 telecon
    
    Hi everyone,
    
    I've written some initial responses to the comments from public and the working group for resize content:
    https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Resize_content_issues_review

    
    If anyone has any thoughts before I put it out the to the wider group that would be very useful.
    
    I've tackled the main issues with multiple comments, in a rough order of priority, the end of the page is a bullet list of small things that I haven't tackled yet.
    
    Cheers,
    
    -Alastair
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