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Re: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?

From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:45:33 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKdCpxx+TFNLQe3P3U2pP2w-086xUyhoJbjYG+NP1J5APE-9=w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Cc: James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu>, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>, "w3c-waI-gl@w3. org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Clarification / correction / addition:

...If Web Start is used to transport and then launch a User Interface-based
application or content​, I'd argue that yes, it is in scope in the same way
that PDF delivered via FTP is in scope...


JF

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Gregg,
>
> Did you mean WCAG's Web page definition?
> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#webpagedef
>
> Or something else?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
>
> On 4/26/17, James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com> wrote:
> > Can someone point to that definition because I can't find it.
> >
> >> On Apr 26, 2017, at 12:32, Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> the definition of Web Content is in the definition section of WCAG.
> >>
> >> if something meets that definition  - it would be Web Content as per
> >> WCAG.
> >>
> >> g
> >>
> >>
> >> Gregg C Vanderheiden
> >> greggvan@umd.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Avila <
> jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> If when it is run it uses HTTP to get its content then it is web
> >>>> content. What is download it is simply a special user agent.
> >>>
> >>> A lot of things can be sent via HTTP.  Remote Desktop can be run over
> >>> HTTP -- through a special user agent.  This definition might include a
> >>> lot of things we haven't considered.  PhoneGap wraps web content that
> >>> uses HTTP.  So does that make PhoneGap a user agent?
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Gregg Vanderheiden RTF [mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 2:48 PM
> >>> To: Laura Carlson
> >>> Cc: w3c-waI-gl@w3. org; public-low-vision-a11y-tf; James Nurthen
> >>> Subject: Re: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?
> >>>
> >>> Can't quite tell from your description. If it is downloaded and
> installed
> >>> and then run it is not the web application.
> >>>
> >>> If when it is run it uses HTTP to get its content then it is web
> content.
> >>> What is download it is simply a special user agent.
> >>>
> >>>> From your description it isn't quite clear which of the two cases it
> is
> >>>
> >>> Gregg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Laura Carlson <
> laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> James asked on Oracle's Adapting Text comment [1] if Java Web Start
> >>>> [2] [3] is covered by WCAG.  He said, "The application is started from
> >>>> a URL and the application is downloaded, installed updated and run
> >>>> directly when clicking on a URL in a web page."
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kindest Regards,
> >>>> Laura
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.
> com_w3c_wcag21_issues_222-23issuecomment-2D297476165&d=DwIFAg&c=
> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
> ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-
> kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=qCcV_q2_
> pBoCNU0qmktn3O6iqXJUvRJvTOx3FVtJRZU&e=
> >>>>
> >>>> [2]
> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.
> wikipedia.org_wiki_Java-5FWeb-5FStart&d=DwIFAg&c=
> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
> ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-
> kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=ucxbJAZcLaQyGWHQAB4dxyvx_
> 9w3C2uajdYaFXtvIWw&e=
> >>>>
> >>>> [3]
> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> java.com_en_download_faq_java-5Fwebstart.xml&d=DwIFAg&c=
> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
> ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-
> kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=cPjasa_
> fhYvGiueGWfxz6G5pSOhMMmEgajnrJA6lFr8&e=
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Laura L. Carlson
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Laura L. Carlson
>
>


-- 
John Foliot
Principal Accessibility Strategist
Deque Systems Inc.
john.foliot@deque.com

Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
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