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Re: Can you add table borders to TRx?

From: Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:27:24 -0500
Message-ID: <CAH2ngETrDjKFFhMiu9ibv=oaviRB33Rg1S6720hSicfK25MBUg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Cc: Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>, public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Laura,

Great idea.  I'll reach out to Lisa.

Best,
G

P.S.  Wayne, I still think there would be a benefit in adding table borders
to TRx.  What do you think???

glenda sims    |   team a11y lead   |    deque.com    |    512.963.3773


*web for everyone. web on everything.* -  w3 goals

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Glenda,
>
> Maybe check with Lisa about reopening COGA's Visual presentation SC
> #51 to reword it for table borders? It would be better to deal with it
> separately.
>
> Let's get the Adapting Text SC accepted and things settled with it. As
> a last resort , we could think about shoehorning it in. However, since
> the adapting text SC is about adapting text, I think it would be quite
> a stretch not to mention challenge to add another bullet for table
> border contrast.
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
>
> On 4/21/17, Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com> wrote:
> > Wayne & Laura,  c: Public Low Vision
> >
> > I've been chatting with Alastair about the color contrast of native html
> > table borders.  We were trying to figure out how we can make sure that
> > people with low vision can see table borders if the author has made those
> > table borders with a low color contrast.
> >
> > Since those table borders are rendered by the browser, and could be
> > controlled by css (or perhaps even included in TRx)....I was wondering if
> > we could eventually cover table border contrast in the proposed SC for
> > Adapting Text.  We don't have to pick it up this round....but...Alastair
> > and I think that table borders are not a strong fit for either of the
> > following proposed WCAG 2.1 SC
> >
> >    - Graphics Contrast - this proposed SC is focused on author created
> >    images.  Table borders are not author created images.
> >    - User Interface Control Contrast (Minimum) - this proposed SC is
> >    focused on interactive user interface controls (and table borders are
> > not
> >    interactive controls).
> >
> > Thinking through what other types of non-text content that is rendered
> by a
> > browser...I can only think of table cell borders, horizontal rules, and
> > possibly unordered list bullets (but those could be considered characters
> > too).
> >
> > Or...would we really need to have a new proposed SC..something like
> > "Adapting Visual Formatting".  Ooooooo....what about Adapting Text and
> > Visual Formatting?
> >
> > Thoughts?
> > G
> >
> > P.S.  Yes...I realize this is a very painful question...since just
> getting
> > Adapting Text through is proving to be quite challenging.  But I wanted
> to
> > make sure all of us took a moment to think about color contrast of table
> > borders and where this fits in to our long range plan.
> >
> > glenda sims    |   team a11y lead   |    deque.com    |    512.963.3773
> >
> >
> > *web for everyone. web on everything.* -  w3 goals
> >
>
>
> --
> Laura L. Carlson
>
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