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Re: Can you add table borders to TRx?

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:23:44 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOavpvf0BWM0t6JW3Uxv-AmkfrCpvtxz-=HT1FszNf7cvKdNfw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com>
Cc: Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>, public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Hi Glenda,

Maybe check with Lisa about reopening COGA's Visual presentation SC
#51 to reword it for table borders? It would be better to deal with it

Let's get the Adapting Text SC accepted and things settled with it. As
a last resort , we could think about shoehorning it in. However, since
the adapting text SC is about adapting text, I think it would be quite
a stretch not to mention challenge to add another bullet for table
border contrast.

Kindest Regards,

On 4/21/17, Glenda Sims <glenda.sims@deque.com> wrote:
> Wayne & Laura,  c: Public Low Vision
> I've been chatting with Alastair about the color contrast of native html
> table borders.  We were trying to figure out how we can make sure that
> people with low vision can see table borders if the author has made those
> table borders with a low color contrast.
> Since those table borders are rendered by the browser, and could be
> controlled by css (or perhaps even included in TRx)....I was wondering if
> we could eventually cover table border contrast in the proposed SC for
> Adapting Text.  We don't have to pick it up this round....but...Alastair
> and I think that table borders are not a strong fit for either of the
> following proposed WCAG 2.1 SC
>    - Graphics Contrast - this proposed SC is focused on author created
>    images.  Table borders are not author created images.
>    - User Interface Control Contrast (Minimum) - this proposed SC is
>    focused on interactive user interface controls (and table borders are
> not
>    interactive controls).
> Thinking through what other types of non-text content that is rendered by a
> browser...I can only think of table cell borders, horizontal rules, and
> possibly unordered list bullets (but those could be considered characters
> too).
> Or...would we really need to have a new proposed SC..something like
> "Adapting Visual Formatting".  Ooooooo....what about Adapting Text and
> Visual Formatting?
> Thoughts?
> G
> P.S.  Yes...I realize this is a very painful question...since just getting
> Adapting Text through is proving to be quite challenging.  But I wanted to
> make sure all of us took a moment to think about color contrast of table
> borders and where this fits in to our long range plan.
> glenda sims    |   team a11y lead   |    deque.com    |    512.963.3773
> *web for everyone. web on everything.* -  w3 goals

Laura L. Carlson
Received on Friday, 21 April 2017 15:24:17 UTC

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