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Re: Positioning Tooltips - Revisiting Hover SC

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:05:03 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOavpve7hAEv2e1+KRHp8fa-fuHTPggm57UcxkGmX57hGxeq7A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>
Cc: Marla Runyan <marlarunyan1@gmail.com>, Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>, public-low-vision-a11y-tf <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Hi Wayne,

The Wiki discussion page for the SC is at:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Talk:Metadata_On_Hover

Kindest Regards,
Laura

On 4/10/17, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Laura and Marla,
> I can still manage the SC, but I will need to change the wording.
>
> Can we work on this. How do we set up an LVTF wiki dicussion first? I think
> we should come up with language first.
>
> Wayne
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2017, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi Marla and all,
>>
>> Wow. This is brilliant. Thank you so very much!
>>
>> Tooltips are not obscured in OS X (I tested in Safari, FireFox, and
>> Chrome) with the cursor is set to either a medium large or large size
>> & with zoom levels set from 0% and up (either full zoom or text zoom).
>> The tooltip responds to accommodate zoom settings. Tooltip text
>> enlarges. Tooltip is perceivable.
>>
>> In addition, I tested on Android 5.0 Lollipop and it works great there
>> too. Chrome: all good. FireFox: all good.
>>
>> Folks, thanks to Marla it seems we have a solution that authors can
>> easily implement.
>>
>> I am now in favor of the LVTF pursuing this SC. Wayne, your thoughts
>> as SC manager?
>>
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Laura
>>
>> On 4/8/17, Marla Runyan <marlarunyan1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> LVTF,
>>>
>>> As many of you may recall, the original “Metadata on Hover” SC was
>>> addressing the issue of tooltips that are generated from the title
> attribute
>>> being obscured by an enlarged mouse pointer. This is a daily occurrence
> for
>>> many low vision users, including myself. While we all know that tooltips
>>> should not contain essential information (only advisory information), I
>>> don’t see tooltips going away any time soon.  Also, determining whether
> or
>>> not their content is “essential” or advisory opens the door for a wide
> range
>>> of interpretations — especially when they appear as the only visual
>>> label
>>> for icons.
>>>
>>> From a low vision user perspective, encountering a tooltip that I cannot
>>> read is a constant reminder of an accessibility barrier — because I see
>>> a
>>> piece of something, and the rest is out of reach.  So, even if the same
>>> content is available on the page, how would I know? All I know is that
> there
>>> is something right in front of me that I can’t access. This is a very
>>> different experience from a keyboard-only user who is likely not aware
> that
>>> a tooltip even exists.
>>>
>>> So, this got me thinking….
>>>
>>> Is it possible to position title attribute tooltips ABOVE their
>>> triggers?
>>> Is it possible to make title attribute tooltips keyboard accessible?
>>>
>>> The answer is yes.
>>>
>>> Should we revisit the “metadata on hover” SC, I created a sandbox where
>>> I
>>> positioned the tooltips above their triggers.
>>>
>>> The first 3 examples are using the title attribute as the content for
>>> the
>>> tooltip. The last two examples use a custom tooltip created from a span.
>>>
>>> All of them appear on hover, so they are also keyboard accessible.
>>>
>>> https://jsfiddle.net/obsqynyp/4/ <https://jsfiddle.net/obsqynyp/4/>
>>>
>>> This is far from perfect - just exploring possibilities.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to discussing further.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Marla
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura L. Carlson
>>
>


-- 
Laura L. Carlson
Received on Monday, 10 April 2017 17:05:37 UTC

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