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Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 11:49:29 -0500
To: public-lod@w3.org
Message-ID: <5644C319.8050601@openlinksw.com>
On 11/12/15 11:18 AM, Paul Houle wrote:
> Really I don't see how much better the search results on the right
> ("Google CSE") are then the ones on the left.  It is a little like this:
>
> http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_16vs8bit_NeilYoung.php
>
> Google and Bing are stuck with P@1 at %70 or so because they don't
> always know the intent of the question.
>
> Various systems that put documents in a blender,  discarding the order
> of the words,  perform astonishingly well at search,  classification
> and other tasks -- anything "smarter" that this has to solve the
> "difficult" problems that remain,  and little steps (like "not good"
> -> "bad" for sentiment analysis) help only a few marginal cases.
>
> The promise of semantics is to give people an experience they never
> had before,  not move some score from .81 to .83.

Paul,

Impact scale of .81 to .83 varies, as you know. For a Web Content
behemoth that's significant :)

Bridges to structured data provided by the aforementioned behemoths aids
the following:

[1] Improvements from behemoths
[2] Investment from behemoths and their close associates (e.g., Venture
Capitalists)
[3] Acquisitions by behemoths.

Any structured data is fodder for value added products and services from
this community. I still believe "Opportunity Costs Realization" is the
ultimate trigger for change and improvement in commercial settings.

Google, Bing, and friends are just parts of the larger ecosystem.

Kingsley 
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:29 AM, David Wood <david@3roundstones.com
> <mailto:david@3roundstones.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     On Nov 12, 2015, at 07:51, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com
>     <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>
>>     On 11/12/15 6:45 AM, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 02:27:10PM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>>>>     > > To me, The Semantic Web is like Google, but then run on my machine.
>>>>     > 
>>>>     > To me its just a Web of Data [...]
>>>     Ruben says "The Semantic Web" and Kingsley answers "just a Web of Data".
>>>
>>>     In my tutorial "introduction to the semantic web" last week at
>>>     SemWeb.Pro, I presented the Semantic Web and the Web of Data as the
>>>     same thing.
>>>
>>>     Then Fabien Gandon from Inria summarized the first session of the MOOC
>>>     "Le Web Sémantique" and distinguished two items in a couple
>>>     (web of data ; semantic web).
>>>
>>>     It made me think that splitting the thing in two after the fact might
>>>     have benefits:
>>>
>>>     - Web of Data = what works today = 1st deliverable of the SemWeb Project
>>>
>>>     - Semantic Web = what will work = prov, trust, inference, smartclient, etc.
>>>
>>>     It allows us to say that The Semantic Web Project **has*delivered** its
>>>     version 1, nicknamed "Web of Data", and that more versions will follow.
>>>
>>>     [Hopefully in a couple years the "Web of Data" will have completely
>>>     merged with the One True Web and nobody will care about making a
>>>     distinction any more]
>>>
>>>     That way of putting things fits well with the iterative/agile/lean
>>>     culture of project management that is now spreading all over.
>>>
>>>     Do you know of people that have been trying to sell things this way?
>>
>>     Hopefully everyone :)
>
>
>     +1  :)
>
>     Regards,
>     Dave
>     --
>     http://about.me/david_wood
>
>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
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>>
>>     Kingsley Idehen	      
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