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Re: What Happened to the Semantic Web?

From: Paul Houle <ontology2@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 11:18:29 -0500
Message-ID: <CAE__kdRVneAA5XbTnJeXZ9i5=SvyXLRqxgkbo4_kq8-mNtb_vA@mail.gmail.com>
To: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com>
Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>
Really I don't see how much better the search results on the right ("Google
CSE") are then the ones on the left.  It is a little like this:

http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_16vs8bit_NeilYoung.php

Google and Bing are stuck with P@1 at %70 or so because they don't always
know the intent of the question.

Various systems that put documents in a blender,  discarding the order of
the words,  perform astonishingly well at search,  classification and other
tasks -- anything "smarter" that this has to solve the "difficult" problems
that remain,  and little steps (like "not good" -> "bad" for sentiment
analysis) help only a few marginal cases.

The promise of semantics is to give people an experience they never had
before,  not move some score from .81 to .83.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:29 AM, David Wood <david@3roundstones.com> wrote:

>
> On Nov 12, 2015, at 07:51, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/12/15 6:45 AM, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 02:27:10PM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>
> > > To me, The Semantic Web is like Google, but then run on my machine.
>
> > > To me its just a Web of Data [...]
>
> Ruben says "The Semantic Web" and Kingsley answers "just a Web of Data".
>
> In my tutorial "introduction to the semantic web" last week at
> SemWeb.Pro, I presented the Semantic Web and the Web of Data as the
> same thing.
>
> Then Fabien Gandon from Inria summarized the first session of the MOOC
> "Le Web Sémantique" and distinguished two items in a couple
> (web of data ; semantic web).
>
> It made me think that splitting the thing in two after the fact might
> have benefits:
>
> - Web of Data = what works today = 1st deliverable of the SemWeb Project
>
> - Semantic Web = what will work = prov, trust, inference, smartclient, etc.
>
> It allows us to say that The Semantic Web Project **has*delivered** its
> version 1, nicknamed "Web of Data", and that more versions will follow.
>
> [Hopefully in a couple years the "Web of Data" will have completely
> merged with the One True Web and nobody will care about making a
> distinction any more]
>
> That way of putting things fits well with the iterative/agile/lean
> culture of project management that is now spreading all over.
>
> Do you know of people that have been trying to sell things this way?
>
>
> Hopefully everyone :)
>
>
>
> +1  :)
>
> Regards,
> Dave
> --
> http://about.me/david_wood
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen	
> Founder & CEO
> OpenLink Software
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>
>


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