Re: Big data applications for general users based on RDF - where are they?

On 22 June 2013 20:01, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Melvin,
> I wouldn't really say that Tabulator was suitable for "general non
> technical users".
> I just clicked on the link, and apart from getting endless windows with
> "Couldn't set callback for redirects: TypeError: 'undefined' is not an
> object (evaluating 'xhr.channel')"
> it is pretty opaque as to what to do next.
> Even trying to read the help.
> That's not to say it isn't useful - it I just wouldn't even expect my
> technical non-SemWeb colleagues to feel the SemWeb was for them by being
> told that was an application for non-technical people.
>

Hi Hugh, I've put a short blog post together about Tabulator.  I hope this
can be a first step to explaining what it does and making it more user
friendly to non technical users

http://www.w3.org/community/rww/2013/06/25/installing-the-tabulator/


> Best
> Hugh
>
> On 22 Jun 2013, at 18:08, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 June 2013 18:56, Dominic Oldman <doint@oldman.me.uk> wrote:
> > So publishing linked data is easy but creating applications that make
> use of it is a completely different kettle of fish and very difficult,
> particularly in the way I described.
> >
> > My assumption is that the linked data community is keen to create these
> user applications and not consign linked data to isolated back end
> processing jobs and a tool for computer scientists. How do we as a
> community solve the semantic interoperability issue?
> >
> >
> > People have different focuses.  I would guess that most are interested
> in back ends and creating (mainly read only) data sets.
> >
> > However there are a few people working on applications, to my knowledge.
>  If you look at Tim's linked data note, he references the tabulator project:
> >
> > http://tabulator.org/
> >
> > Which is an open source project he and his team at MIT have been
> developing over the last 10 years or so.  There's about 20 or so linked
> data applications from calendars to miroblogs.  The source can be found at:
> >
> > https://github.com/linkeddata
> >
> > This is my favourite project to hack on in my spare time.  If there's
> anybody out there interested in helping to create useful linked data apps,
> would love to hear from you! :)
> >
> > Dominic
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> >
> >
> > From: Dominic Oldman <do_home@btopenworld.com>;
> > To: jyoung@oclc.org <jyoung@oclc.org>;
> > Subject: Re: RE: Big data applications for general users based on RDF -
> where are they?
> > Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 4:41:03 PM
> >
> > So publishing linked data is easy but creating applications that make
> use of it is a completely different kettle of fish and very difficult,
> particularly in the way I described.
> >
> > My assumption is that the linked data community is keen to create these
> user applications and not consign linked data to isolated back end
> processing jobs and a tool for computer scientists. How do we as a
> community solve the semantic interoperability issue?
> >
> > Dominic
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> >
> >
> > From: Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>;
> > To: doint@oldman.me.uk <doint@oldman.me.uk>; public-lod@w3 org <
> public-lod@w3.org>;
> > Subject: RE: Big data applications for general users based on RDF -
> where are they?
> > Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 4:27:31 PM
> >
> > It’s pretty easy to write an XSL stylesheet to convert “records” into
> RDF/XML, and then write a little M/R job to run the XSL against a big bulk
> of records to boil it down.
> >
> >
> > The intellectual challenge is the semantic mapping of idiomatic data
> into RDF vocabulary terms.
> >
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > From: Dominic Oldman [mailto:doint@oldman.me.uk]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 12:16 PM
> > To: public-lod@w3 org
> > Subject: Big data applications for general users based on RDF - where
> are they?
> >
> >
> >
> > Why are there so few useful linked data applications for general non
> technical users that provide functions that people need to support and
> enhance their work and which operate over large amounts of data owned by
> different organisations with a high degree of semantic interoperability and
> robustness?
> >
> > Dominic
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> >
> >
> >
>
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