Re: The need for RDF in Linked Data

On 6/17/13 12:51 PM, Luca Matteis wrote:
> Done: http://codepad.org/7REcSynR/raw.txt
>
> That's still RDF so I don't get your point.

Really? How?

curl -I http://codepad.org/7REcSynR/raw.txt

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:57:10 GMT
Server: Apache
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Disposition: attachment
Content-Length: 427
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


What makes it RDF?

Related:

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity–attribute–value_model 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity%E2%80%93attribute%E2%80%93value_model> 
-- EAV
2. http://bit.ly/YTdz3N - Peter Chen's circa. 1976 dissertation that 
covers unified views of data (note: a simple example of these concepts 
that even predate the World Wide Web).

Kingsley

>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Kingsley Idehen 
> <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 6/17/13 11:02 AM, Luca Matteis wrote:
>>
>>     On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Kingsley Idehen
>>     <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Linked Data is also something you can produce, without any
>>         knowledge of RDF.
>>
>>
>>     What do you mean "without any knowledge of RDF"? How do you
>>     produce Linked Data without RDF? Please give us an example before
>>     making statements on behalf of the community.
>     If you recall (earlier today) I presented you with a simple
>     exercise which would answer the question you've posed above,
>     demonstrably.
>
>     Here's that I posted:
>
>
>     Webby Structured Data:
>
>     Simply copy and paste the following to a Web accessible location
>     (URL) and then share the URL via a response to this mail. If you
>     can't then simply let me know and I'll do that for you.
>
>     ## Structured Data Representation using Turtle Notation ##
>
>     <>
>     a <#Document> .
>     <#mentions> "Linked Data" , "Linked Data", "Semantic Web",
>     "Inference Reasoning", "Web".
>     <#comment> "A mailing list post about Linked Data and RDF".
>     <#seeAlso> <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Linked_data>
>     <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Linked_data>,
>     <http://dbpedia.org/resource/RDF>
>     <http://dbpedia.org/resource/RDF>,
>     <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Semantic_Web>
>     <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Semantic_Web>,
>     <http://dbpedia.org/resource/World_Wide_Web>
>     <http://dbpedia.org/resource/World_Wide_Web>
>
>     ## End ##
>
>     What is the above to you?
>
>     1. Webby Structured Data -- constructable using basic knowledge of
>     Entity Relationship Models e.g. EAV (Entity-Attribute-Value based
>     structured data representation)
>     2. RDF based Structured Data -- i.e., structured data endowed with
>     machine- and human-comprehensible entity relationship semantics as
>     defined by RDF (a framework).
>
>     Related:
>
>     1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity–attribute–value_model
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity%96attribute%96value_model> -- EAV
>     2. http://bit.ly/YTdz3N - Peter Chen's circa. 1976 dissertation
>     that covers unified views of data (note: a simple example of these
>     concepts that even predate the World Wide Web).
>
>     -- 
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Kingsley Idehen	
>     Founder & CEO
>     OpenLink Software
>     Company Web:http://www.openlinksw.com
>     Personal Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen  <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen>
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