Re: The need for RDF in Linked Data

On 6/17/13 8:49 AM, Barry Norton wrote:
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> Agreed. It always amuses me to hear how Web/REST is not coupled to HTTP.
>
> Applying for a Web job without HTML/HTTP skills is like applying for a 
> Linked Data job without RDF/HTTP.
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> The rest might be interesting to some, but is of zero practical 
> consequence.
>
> Barry

Barry,

The point here isn't about what's the perception. The debate here is 
about technical reality expressed in architecture. Also, REST isn't 
architecture at all, that's just an attempt to describe the kind of 
client-server computing HTTP enables.

Does the world conflate the World Wide, Web, HTML, HTTP etc.. of course 
they do. That doesn't turn it into actual technical architecture.


Kingsley
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>
> On 17/06/13 13:34, Luca Matteis wrote:
>> Come on! If you're building something that works like the Web but 
>> isn't using HTTP, then it's *not* the Web. It's something else that 
>> has similar dynamics to the Web (like, I dunno, a gazillion of other 
>> things?).
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Kingsley Idehen 
>> <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
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>>     On 6/17/13 8:17 AM, Luca Matteis wrote:
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Kingsley Idehen
>>>     <kidehen@openlinksw.com <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         The Web isn't about being draconian or tightly coupled to
>>>         anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>     But the Web *IS* tightly coupled to HTTP! Why can't Linked Data
>>>     then be tightly coupled to RDF?
>>
>>     The Web isn't tightly coupled to HTTP.
>>
>>     HTTP is an effective route to a global Web.
>>
>>     The magic is in the URI, the ability to provide abstraction that
>>     enables the loose coupling of data access protocols and data
>>     representation formats.
>>
>>     FWIW -- when we started releasing Linked Data (at the start of
>>     this journey) we did so using resolvable URIs for a variety of
>>     schemes, not just HTTP. Even today, in the context of Web-scale
>>     verifiable identity, we produce Linked Data solutions that don't
>>     mandate HTTP scheme URIs while actually exploiting the kind of
>>     entity relationship fidelity that RDF delivers.
>>
>>     The beauty of the World Wide Web is that it is actually loosely
>>     coupled at its architectural core. HTTP is a productive short-cut
>>     to the Web due its increasing ubiquity.
>>
>>     -- 
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Kingsley Idehen	
>>     Founder & CEO
>>     OpenLink Software
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