- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:01:33 +0000
- To: Tore Eriksson <tore.eriksson@po.rd.taisho.co.jp>
- CC: public-lod@w3.org
Hi Tore, I think your point is in line with one of Ian's motives. At the end of the day, it's pretty obvious that a Toucan ain't going to fly down the wire and pop out of your screen so the distinction between IR and NIR is one that only those at the nerd end of the geek-nerd continuum are ever going to care about. Also, it seems that Content-Location, *if* implemented properly, does maintain the distinction. Halving the number of HTTP requests to get the data you probably want is no bad thing. As others have said, most folk don't see and couldn't care less about the HTTP headers. It's that aspect that makes me wary of, but not actually opposed to, 200 with C-L - it's easier to get away with mistakes if most people don't see them. 303 is more open as it affects the address bar in the browser (assuming it's visible). But, as the scammers and spammers know very well, most people don't look at that either. This thread has probably run long enough. I unsubscribed from the TAG mailing list mainly because I couldn't stand any more debate about IRs vs NIRs. So, I'm going to shut up and go with the flow (and I have to sort out wdrs:describedby this morning too!) Cheers Phil. On 08/11/2010 03:21, Tore Eriksson wrote: > Hi Phil! > > Phil Archer wrote: >> I know I sound like a fundamentalist in a discussion where we're trying >> to find a practical, workable solution, but is a description of a toucan >> a representation of a toucan? IMO, it's not. Sure, one can imagine an >> HTTP response returning a very rich data stream that conveys the entire >> experience of having a toucan on your desk - but the toucan ain't >> actually there. > > Since this distinction is, and has been for many years, debatable, why > not be pragmatic and leave this choice to the users themselves? If > someone thinks that a web page consisting of a picture and a textual > description is an adequate represenation of a Toucan, let them return > one over HTTP (as long as they are aware that the web page itself is a > different resource yada yada...). People expecting the Toucan to fly > down the wire and appear at their desk might me disappointed but most > users will probably be happy with the low-fidelity version. > > Tore Eriksson > > _______________________________________________________________ > Tore Eriksson [tore.eriksson at po.rd.taisho.co.jp] > > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > Find out more about Talis at http://www.talis.com/ > shared innovation™ > > Any views or personal opinions expressed within this email may not be those of Talis Information Ltd or its employees. The content of this email message and any files that may be attached are confidential, and for the usage of the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, then please return this message to the sender and delete it. Any use of this e-mail by an unauthorised recipient is prohibited. > > Talis Information Ltd is a member of the Talis Group of companies and is registered in England No 3638278 with its registered office at Knights Court, Solihull Parkway, Birmingham Business Park, B37 7YB. > -- Phil Archer W3C Mobile Web Initiative http://www.w3.org/Mobile http://philarcher.org @philarcher1
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