- From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
- Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 01:20:03 +0100
- To: Bijan Parsia <bparsia@cs.man.ac.uk>
- Cc: Peter Ansell <ansell.peter@gmail.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, semantic-web at W3C <semantic-web@w3c.org>, public-lod@w3.org
On 9 Jul 2008, at 00:11, Bijan Parsia wrote: [big snip] > Complaining that the Big Nasty People Who Know What They're Talking > About are raining on your sameAs parade isn't constructive. Ah Bijan. How about *you* grow up, flameboy? You keep asserting that There Are Technical Problems With Using sameAs. It would help your argument if you told us what those technical problems actually *are*. I heard you say that using owl:sameAs could bite us in the butt. Could you be more specific? Many people in this forum, including me, do not have a background in formal logics. Without that background, it is hard to distinguish proper uses of owl:sameAs from improper uses of owl:sameAs. Please give us some guidance on that rather than wasting your intellect on fanning the flames. A side note: The reason why I advocate the use of owl:sameAs is not that it's the *right* solution. But it's *the only solution that was available*. The alternative would have been to argue for a year or two instead of linking up our datasets. Not compelling. That being said, I'm very interested in hearing your take on when I should use owl:sameAs and when not. Richard > Perhaps your should direct your bile toward people who claim that > sameAs is a solution. > >>> First, people *do* use sameAs for the semantics (to some degree). >>> But often >>> those semantics are wrong. People champion that use. I think >>> that's a >>> mistake. It can seriously bite you on the butt as you add more >>> expressivity. >>> If you don't ever use more expressivity it won't (perhaps). >> >> How do you propose people should be able to generically say that two >> URI's refer to the same real world thing if their representational >> data structures > > You lost me with your jargon. > >> are fundamentally disjoint and hence saying owl:sameAs >> will break something somewhere at some point in time? > > That's not what I was concerned about. > >> Do any of the >> OWL normative documents deal with this issue? > > Frame the question concretely and intelligibly and perhaps I can > help you. > >>> One can only tackle so many issues at a time. I try to give some >>> info so >>> people, instead of using what I think is the wrong thing, can >>> figure out >>> something better. >> >> This is a big issue currently. > > There are lots of issues. Many of them are big to many people. Why > not try to solve some? > >> What alternatives do you have to give them? > > I'm not sure why you think that I shouldn't point out technical > problems with using sameAs. > > Cheers, > Bijan. >
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