- From: Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>
- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:51:23 -0400
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
- Cc: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, "Young,Jeff (OR)" <jyoung@oclc.org>, public-lld@w3.org
Karen wrote:
>There is no 'things in the world' concept in library cataloging in the
>sense that there is in SemWeb.
I think it's helpful to think of "things in the world" in
the SemWeb context not as real things in the real world,
but as things in a notional world about which one wants to
make statements -- as MichaelP put it [1]:
I would argue that OWL (like any ontology language)
is used to create _a world_ (the universe or domain)
one is trying to make assertions about, rather than just
taking _the world_ as the default domain.
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2010Sep/0007.html
Karen wrote:
> > Perhaps I don't understand the difference between SKOS and Skosxl, but my
> > reading of the use of labels for both of those is that you are providing the
> > label for *something*. In authority data, the authoritative name (the MARC
> > 1XX) *is* the thing. At least, that seems to be what FRAD is saying.
So when modeled in an ontology or concept scheme, the
authoritative name (the MARC 1XX) _would_ be a "thing in
the world".
Dan wrote:
> My understanding of SKOS vs SKOSXL is just that in XL the content of
> the label is itself a first class thing. Which can be useful when you
> want to say other things about the label. So in this case it would
> give a kind of double-indirection in that with this FRAD/MARC stuff we
> are also applying the label to a thing that stands for a person's
> name.
>
> So we'd potentially have
> 1. the person as a thing
> 2. the person's name as a thing
> 3. the label for the person's name as a thing (if using skosxl:)
To be clear, I understand this to mean:
1. the person as thing is an instance of foaf:Person
2. the person's name as thing is an instance of skos:Concept
3. the label for the person's name as thing is an instance of skos:Label
...where #2 and #3 are part of the authority scheme, and
where #2 may be related to #1 using foaf:focus.
Tom
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Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>
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