- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 08:17:59 -0700
- To: Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>
- Cc: public-lld@w3.org
Quoting Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>: > Karen wrote: >> There is no 'things in the world' concept in library cataloging in the >> sense that there is in SemWeb. > > I think it's helpful to think of "things in the world" in > the SemWeb context not as real things in the real world, > but as things in a notional world about which one wants to > make statements -- as MichaelP put it [1]: Well, I kind of agree, and kind of disagree. The disagreement is that the library catalog does not intend to connect to anything outside of the bibliographic realm, so it's a closed world, not an open one. And that's the difference in thinking that makes it hard for many librarians to even consider that their data should connect to anything else. If you suggest that geographic names in library records could end up being displayed as a map, as I have to many audiences, many people cannot see why you would want to do that. So I do think that the concepts are different. When SemWeb folks talk about RWO they are usually thinking about an identity that can be shared. But, yes, obviously a bibliographic entity is a thing in the bibliographic world. But only in the bibliographic world, at least in many minds. > To be clear, I understand this to mean: > > 1. the person as thing is an instance of foaf:Person > 2. the person's name as thing is an instance of skos:Concept > 3. the label for the person's name as thing is an instance of skos:Label > > ...where #2 and #3 are part of the authority scheme, and > where #2 may be related to #1 using foaf:focus. Yes, the Person as a thing is modeled from foaf, not from the library authority data. And the concept of a label for the name must come from skos, not FRAD, unless I have missed something in FRAD. What is not here is the FRAD view, however, of the person's name as a bibliographic entity. I don't think that is the same as any of the other three above, is it? kc > > Tom > > -- > Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de> > > > -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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