Re: ISSUE-79 ldp:contains

On 3 Jun 2013, at 06:53, John Arwe <johnarwe@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Most (vast majority) of my clients *do not care* if a member was created by the container or are simply listed as members but exist independently (quite possibly existing prior to the container itself).  It's a completely irrelevant (to those clients) who consider "who created it" to be an implementation detail.  They are going to want to update the members (hence the r/w part), for sure. 

That's fine. Many clients may create a member and just go on from there, without ever doing a GET on the LDPC again.

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> The way the spec is written reflects this notion of membership.  I don't care personally if you wish to add a contains relation.  For the implementations of interest to me it is, so far, completely extraneous but I have no trouble imagining a place for it. 

Ok, so we can settle on replacing the text in the spec with ldp:contains then?
In the end if you want to add different relations to your LDPC you can of course use different relations.
So this would be perfectly ok:

<> a ldp:Container;
   ldp:contains <member>;
   rdf:member <http://ibm.com/cart/23> .

It helps us if the ldp:contains relation is the default predicate in our spec, because this is the one 
most closely related to the protocol. 

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> I can tell at this point that anything else I would say falls on deaf ears, so </end> 
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