- From: C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <cmsmcq@blackmesatech.com>
 - Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 18:38:22 -0600
 - To: ixml <public-ixml@w3.org>
 
ixml meeting 30 April 2024
When: Tuesday 30 April 2024 14:00 UTC for 1 hour
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20240430T1400
Where: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq 
  
Minute taker: MSM (or he being absent JL)
IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at [1].  Details of W3C IRC
use are at [2] and [3], hints for using RRSAgent at [4] and [5].
[1] irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml
[2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat
[3] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC
[4] https://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
[5] https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html
Previous minutes:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2024Apr/0009.html
https://www.w3.org/2024/04/16-ixml-minutes.html
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Topic: Review of agenda
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    0 Identify minute-taker
    1 Review of action items
    2 Status reports
    3 Review, discussion, resolution of issues
    4 Other topics
    5 Next meeting (and next scribe)
    6 Any other business
Details below.
        
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Topic: Previous Actions
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ACTION 2023-01-10-f: Norm and Michael to do a bit of revision to
                     improve the draft documentation of the XML
                     vocabulary (see #137) for further discussion.
ACTION 2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue #139
                     (new grammars, new README).
ACTION 2024-03-19-a: Steven to contact W3C to get the report links
                     fixed on the report and ixml group pages:
                     https://www.w3.org/community/reports/
                     https://www.w3.org/community/ixml/
                     Both pages have links which return a 404.
                     [Still broken 29 April 2024]
ACTION 2024-04-16-a: MSM to revise the EBNF document in light of
                     Steven's review.
ACTION 2024-04-16-b: Norm to reconstruct the previous W3C-styled
                     draft.
ACTION 2024-04-16-c: Norm to sort out the broken link in the report
                     (404 on link to 'latest published version').
                     [29 April 2024:  link to
                     https://www.w3.org/community/reports/ixml/ixml/
                     still broken]
ACTION 2024-04-16-d: Michael to open an issue about adding line break
                     normalization tests.
                     Done: issue #246.
                     https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/246
                     
ACTION 2024-04-16-e: Norm to merge pull request #245.
                     Done.
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Topic:  Status reports
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Topic:  Status of implementations
Topic:  Status of testing and test suites
See also test-suite related issues below.
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Topic:  broken links on CG and CG Reports pages
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CG Reports are linked from the Reports page and from the page for the
responsible CG:
  https://www.w3.org/community/reports/
  https://www.w3.org/community/ixml/
Currently, both of those link use not the URL of the report but to a
URL which returns a 404:
  https://ixml.nwalsh.com/ixml/CG-FINAL-ixml-20230710/
See also action 2024-03-19-a.
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Topic:  Review and resolution of bug reports and technical issues
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NB The list below shows only issues open as of the time this agenda
was last revised.  It does not show any issues raised only in email:
if you wish an issue to be discussed, please open an issue in Github.
For all open issues, see https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/
* Issues against the 1.0 spec
None.
* Issues relating to test suite
N.B. Issue #246 (linebreak tests needed) requires a volunteer but
needs no discussion.
* v.Next issues:  version numbers
There are several intertwingled issues here.  Bottom line of
discussion on 2 April was "Norm: I will take another stab at it."
  - Pull request #243
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/243
    Intended to close issues #237 and #238.
    
  - Issue #237 What should the absence of a version number mean?
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/237
  - Issue #238 When the input specifies an unknown version, what should a processor do?
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/238
  - Issue #236 When must version numbers change?
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/236
* v.Next issues:  other prolog issues
Topic:  Issue #235 Problems with prolog (syntax and semantics)
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/235
Topic:  Issue #234 Alternative syntaxes for prolog
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/234
* Other v.Next issues
Topic:  Issue #239  Support simple data types?
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/239
Topic:  Issue #75 Combining grammars (for v.Next)
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/75
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0002.html
        We need to discuss the use-cases document proposed by Norm.
        MSM proposes the functionality of RNG as a minimum.
Topic:  Issue #168 Dynamic naming / name from the input data 
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/168
        See discussion document from John:
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023May/0005.html
* Issues relating to Web site and ancillary documents
Topic:  Issue #139 Sample grammars for IRIs and URIs
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/139
        
        See proposal at
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Mar/0004.html
        Revised proposal from Steven:
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jun/0009.html
        And now:
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2024Feb/0003.html
Topic:  Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml grammars
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/137
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0003.html
        https://ixml.nwalsh.com/xmlguide/
        Awaiting progress on action 2023-01-10-f (Norm and Michael).
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Topic: Other topics
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Topic:  Plans for further work
Topic: Website
  
     https://invisiblexml.org
     https://github.com/invisibleXML/
     
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Topic: Next meeting
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Normal date and time for ixml meetings is every other Tuesday at 3 pm
British Time, 4 pm Central European Time (14:00 UTC during summer
time, 15:00 UTC during winter time).  For the foreseeable future, we
meet in weeks whose numbers in the ISO week numbering are even.
On the usual schedule, the next meeting would be Tuesday 14 May, at
14:00 UTC for one hour.
For the record: the current state of the minute-taking rota is:
  M Sperberg-McQueen 2024-03-05
  John Lumley        2024-03-19
  Steven Pemberton   2024-04-02
  Norm Tovey-Walsh   2023-04-16
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Topic: Any other business 
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C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
Black Mesa Technologies LLC
http://blackmesatech.com
Received on Tuesday, 30 April 2024 00:39:09 UTC