draft agenda for invisible XML community group call 14 November 2023

ixml meeting 14 November 2023

When: Tuesday 14 November 2023 15:00 UTC for 1 hour
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20231031T1500

NOTE: for this meeting, Europeans and North American are all on WINTER
TIME.  The UTC time of the meeting has shifted, but on both sides of
the Atlantic the time is "as usual" (10 EST, 7 PST).

Where: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq 
  
Minute taker: JL (or he being absent NTW)

IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at [1].  Details of W3C IRC
use are at [2] and [3], hints for using RRSAgent at [4] and [5].

[1] irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml
[2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat
[3] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC
[4] https://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
[5] https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html

Previous minutes:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0010.html
https://www.w3.org/2023/10/17-ixml-minutes

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Topic: Review of agenda
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    0 Identify minute-taker
    1 Review of action items
    2 Status reports
    3 Review, discussion, resolution of issues
    4 Other topics
    5 Next meeting (and next scribe)
    6 Any other business

Details below.
        

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Topic: Previous Actions
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ACTION 2023-01-10-b: Michael to take another pass on the EBNF to BNF
                     document

ACTION 2023-01-10-f: Norm and Michael to do a bit of revision to
                     improve the draft documentation of the XML
                     vocabulary (see #137) for further discussion.

ACTION 2023-09-05-f: Michael to update (some of) the test drivers

ACTION 2023-10-03-a: Norm to create tests for renaming

ACTION 2023-10-03-b: Steven to make pull request for grammar,
                     requiring space after prolog

ACTION 2023-10-03-c: Norm close issue 197 without changes

ACTION 2023-10-03-d: Michael draft a FAQ, to include discussion of
                     Unicode non-characters and non-Unicode characters

ACTION 2023-10-17-a: SP to document the modified IRI/URI grammar to
                     make clearer why you might want it / need it, in
                     preference to the literal transcription of the
                     grammars in the RFCs.

ACTION 2023-10-17-b: SP to draft proposed addition to section 3.3
                     saying explicitly that nonterminals are
                     case-sensitive.

ACTION 2023-10-17-c: NTW to do some experiments with dynamic CSS, to
                     see if we can turn section numbers on and off.

ACTION 2023-10-17-d: SP to make each heading hyperlink to the section
                     it heads (on the model of the XSLT spec).

ACTION 2023-10-17-e: SP to develop tests to detect version of Unicode
                     supported.

ACTION 2023-10-17-f: MSM to find the tests which currently provide
                     different results based on version of Unicode
                     supported, and send SP a pointer to them.

ACTION 2023-10-17-g: NTW to develop proposal for #192 with a menu of
                     choices




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Topic:  Status reports
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Topic:  Status of implementations

Topic:  Status of testing and test suites


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Topic:  publication plans
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Web Conference reviewers have inquired about our publication plans:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Mar/0000.html

Rules: https://www.w3.org/community/about/faq/#how-do-we-publish-a-report

If no discussion is needed, this item may be skipped.


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Topic:  Review and resolution of bug reports and technical issues
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NB The list below shows only issues open as of the time this agenda
was last revised.  It does not show any issues raised only in email:
if you wish an issue to be discussed, please open an issue in Github.

For all open issues, see https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/



* Issues against the 1.0 spec

None.

* Issues relating to Web site and ancillary documents

Topic:  Issue #198 Check that browsable test suite is being updated when tests are added

Topic:  Issue #139 Sample grammars for IRIs and URIs

        See proposal at
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Mar/0004.html

        Revised proposal from Steven:
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jun/0009.html

Topic:  Description of EBNF to BNF translation

        See also:
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0002.html
        https://github.com/ndw/ixml/blob/ebnf-to-bnf/misc/ebnf-to-bnf.md

        Awaiting progress on action 2023-01-10-b (Michael).

Topic:  Issue #137 Document the XML tag set of ixml grammars

        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0003.html
        https://ixml.nwalsh.com/xmlguide/

        Awaiting progress on action 2023-01-10-f (Norm and Michael).


* v.Next issues

Topic:  Issue #210 Extraneous material in section on Serialization

        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/210
        
Topic:  Issue #203 Spec should say nonterminals are case-sensitive

        Awaiting proposal (action 2023-10-17-b).
        
Topic:  Issue #202 Spec should say Unicode version is implementation-defined

        Awaiting proposal (but not action was assigned?).

Topic:  Issue #199 Require whitespace between prolog and first rule?

        Awaiting pull request?

Topic:  Issue #192 Normalizing line endings in ixml inputs

        See thread beginning at
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0021.html

Topic:  Issue #75 A Combining grammars (for v.Next)

        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Jan/0002.html

        We need to discuss the use-cases document proposed by Norm.
        MSM proposes the functionality of RNG as a minimum.

Topic:  Issue #168 Dynamic naming / name from the input data 

        See discussion document from John:
        https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023May/0005.html

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Topic: Other topics
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Topic:  Plans for further work

Topic: Website
  
     https://invisiblexml.org
     https://github.com/invisibleXML/


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Topic: Next meeting
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Normal date and time for ixml meetings is every other Tuesday at 3 pm
British Time, 4 pm Central European Time (14:00 UTC during summer
time, 15:00 UTC during winter time).  For the foreseeable future, we
meet in weeks whose numbers in the ISO week numbering are even.

On the usual schedule, the next meeting would be Tuesday 14 November,
at 15:00 UTC for one hour.

NOTE: for the meeting of 14 November, both Europeans and North
Americans will be on WINTER TIME / STANDARD TIME.  For North
Americans, the time of the meeting will be back to the usual time (10
EST, 7 PST).

For the record: the current state of the minute-taking rota is:

  John Lumley        2022-06-27
  Norm Tovey-Walsh   2023-09-05
  Steven Pemberton   2023-10-03
  M Sperberg-McQueen 2023-10-17


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Topic: Any other business 
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-- 
C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
Black Mesa Technologies LLC
http://blackmesatech.com

Received on Tuesday, 14 November 2023 00:02:35 UTC