- From: C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <cmsmcq@blackmesatech.com>
- Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 20:29:34 -0600
- To: public-ixml@w3.org
ixml meeting 15 March 2022 When: Tuesday 8 March 2022 15:30 UTC for 1 hour https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting+15+March&iso=20220301T1530 Where: Location: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq Minute taker: NDW IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml Details of W3C IRC use are at [1] and [2]. [1] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat [2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC Previous minutes: - 22 Feb https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Feb/0184.html https://www.w3.org/2022/02/22-ixml-minutes - 1 Mar https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Mar/0008.html No meeting 8 March, no minutes. AGENDA Topic: Review of agenda 0 Identify minute-taker 1 Review of action items 2 Status reports Status of implementations Status of testing and test suites 3 Review and resolution of issues See below. 4 Other topics Terminology Website Release plan 5 Next meeting (and next scribe) 6 Any other business **************************************************************** Topic: Previous Actions **************************************************************** ACTION (20220222-01): NDW to make a proposal for possible error codes (issue #44). ACTION (20220222-02): Steven to outline examples in the spec. to differentiate static and dynamic errors (issues #25, #18, #23, #31). ACTION (20220222-03): Steven - Issue #47 - @root (Outermost effective nonterminal as attribute) - to be proposed in the spec as a dynamic error. ACTION (20220222-04): Steven - simplify the spec to require the output of 'well-formed' XML. Does that have some subcodes in terms of the violation of well-formedness. (Issues #25, #18, #23, #31, #47.) ACTION (20220222-05): Steven Issue #33 (s = @a, b, @c) - this needs to be explicit. ACTION (20220222-06): NDW Issue #45 (Unused non-terminals) - NDW - two test suites - undefined and unused. Pull request awaiting review. **************************************************************** Topic: Status reports **************************************************************** Topic: Status of implementations Topic: Status of testing and test suites **************************************************************** Topic: Review and resolution of bug reports and technical issues **************************************************************** This list is not guaranteed complete. For all active issues, see https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/ ................................................................ Topic: Conformance cluster: which grammars to accept and reject (et al.) ................................................................ ................................................................ Sub-cluster: constraints on grammars ................................................................ https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0072.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0073.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0077.html Topic: Issue #43 One rule per nonterminal (again) https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/19 https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/43 ................................................................ Sub-cluster: grammar issues ................................................................ Topic: Issue #48 S=a.a.a=c;a.a.a=c;.c='x';a;a.a. https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/48 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Feb/0200.html Topic: Issue #53 -[^'ab'] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Mar/0037.html https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/53 ................................................................ Sub-cluster: responsibilities of the processor ................................................................ Topic: Issue #20: What grammars to accept and reject? https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/20 Topic: Issue #21 May a conforming processor run out of memory? https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/21 Topic: Issue #25 Static and dynamic errors? https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/25 Clarification needed: may a processor reject a grammar statically because a dynamic error may arise for some inputs? Or only if a dynamic error will arise for any input? ................................................................ Other issues ................................................................ Topic: Issue #28 Schema for grammars https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/28 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0009.html Topic: Spec issue #26 - how is ambiguity defined? https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0030.html https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/26 Topic: XML, VXML, output of ixml processing Dave Pawson asked that this be a "(hopefully brief) agenda item". https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0150.html Topic: Terminological issues: what is an 'error'? Is it an 'error' for the input string not to be a sentence in the language described by the input grammar? Agenda item requested by Dave Pawson. See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Feb/0085.html and the surrounding thread Topic: Pragmas proposal (continued) (issues #10, #29, #30) Brief summary of TM proposal: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0029.html Proposal: misc/pragmas-proposal.md in proposal-pragmas branch: https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas-proposal.md Background: misc/pragmas.md in proposal-pragmas branch: https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas.md (This is a longer discussion of the proposal, with alternatives; discussion of requirements, desiderata, and design principles; and worked examples showing how processors might use the pragmas proposal for support of various kinds of additional functionality.) Strawman proposal from SP: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0102.html Specific issue: is there a reason for pragmas to nest? https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/30 Specific issue: are the constraints on what a pragma can change or do? https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/29 See also (older discussions): https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jun/0003 (pragmas) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jul/0002 (namespace decls, locality) During the discussion, Dave Pawson asked that the application of pragmas to parse trees be an agenda item: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0169.html **************************************************************** Topic: Other topics **************************************************************** Topic: Terminology Topic: Website https://invisiblexml.org https://github.com/invisibleXML/ Topic: Release plan **************************************************************** Topic: Next meeting **************************************************************** Normal date for ixml meetings is every Tuesday at 15:30 UTC On the usual schedule, the next meeting would be Tuesday 22 March, at 15:30 UTC for one hour; the U.S. is on DST on that date, so the times in the U.S. are one hour later than usual. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20220315T1530 N.B. Most of the U.S. shifted to Daylight Savings Time on Sunday 13 March 2022. Most of Europe will shift to summer time on Sunday 27 March 2022. Expected scribe next week: volunteers sought. [For the record: we have regrets from SP for 8 March, from JL for 8 and 15 March.] [For the record: the current state of the minute-taking rota is: Steven Pemberton 2022-01-25 Norm Tovey-Walsh 2022-02-08 M Sperberg-McQueen 2022-02-15 John Lumley 2022-02-22 Tomos Hillman 2022-03-01 **************************************************************** Topic: Any other business **************************************************************** -- C. M. Sperberg-McQueen Black Mesa Technologies LLC http://blackmesatech.com
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