RE: Two Final Threads - Diphthongs / Final glyph checks

Hi Greg

 

Let explain my answer clearly.

 

>Could you confirm that the following is our agreed upon specification for the Medial U+1836?



Yes. The list provided above is exactly match our requirements. 

 

 

> Badral,

> As I understand you are ok with this specification except that you want to add one line



>Is that correct? If not, could you modify the above so that it matches your desired specification?

 

We do not accept this over-riding in any kind of design. Because it will discard our request of the medial form   should be encoded with no FVS at all.

This is widely accepted spelling of Mongolian tradition for medial form of . (U+1836, U1822).  we do not allow any extra FVS for YA here.

This is mean, the SAYIQAN (means “recently”) should encoded without FVS for YA. 

It is not just one word. There is a lot kind of this words . please find the attached example list from Siqin before.

 

I would like to remind all that it is impossible to use over-riding rule for this character. The  is not irregular case. It is regular case.

But for inner Mongolian peopleis irregular case. Should use FVS1 to distinguish if you like use YI to encode it.

 

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

 

Jirimutu

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From: jrmt@almas.co.jp [mailto:jrmt@almas.co.jp] 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 2:08 PM
To: 'Greg Eck' <greck@postone.net>; 'Badral S.' <badral@bolorsoft.com>; public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org
Subject: RE: Two Final Threads - Diphthongs / Final glyph checks

 

Hi Greg,

 

>Could you confirm that the following is our agreed upon specification for the Medial U+1836?

Yes. It is exactly match our requirements.

 

Thanks.

 

Jirimutu

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From: Greg Eck [mailto:greck@postone.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:43 PM
To: jrmt@almas.co.jp <mailto:jrmt@almas.co.jp> ; 'Badral S.' <badral@bolorsoft.com <mailto:badral@bolorsoft.com> >; public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org <mailto:public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org> 
Subject: RE: Two Final Threads - Diphthongs / Final glyph checks

 

Jirimutu,

 

Could you confirm that the following is our agreed upon specification for the Medial U+1836?

 



If not, could you modify it such that it matches your desired specification?

 

 

Badral,

As I understand you are ok with this specification except that you want to add one line



Is that correct? If not, could you modify the above so that it matches your desired specification?

 

Thanks,

Greg

 

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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:53 AM
Subject: RE: Two Final Threads - Diphthongs / Final glyph checks

 

It is not acceptable for using any kind of FVS (1 or 2, or 3) for SAYIQAN (meaning “recently”). 

The medial form    is definitely the first medial form YI. It is not the second or third.

 

Please check the following related document, 

All of them called the  is the first medial form of YA  and  is the second medial form of YA. 

1.      Professor Quejingzhabu’s book “The Mongolian Encoding”

2.      GB 26226-2010 standard of China which is we are refereeing mainly.

3.      TR170 document which is you are refereeing mainly.

4.      Previous USVL document.

 

The naming of medial YA in these document is matching Mongolian tradition and exactly correct.

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But these book all call  as first medial form of YA, but there are extra encoding with FVS1.

It is the main problem of this issue. We are proposing to correct this mistake to match the real word,

Or discarding the contradictory parts in these documents.

 

Please do not forget the medial form is used before other vowel, A, E, O, U, OE, UE, EE in large amount of words. 

 

The  is only one special form before I in the medial position in the word. It should be the second variant of the YA.

 

 

Jirimutu

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