- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:18:47 +0900
- To: public-i18n-its@w3.org
... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html and below as text. Felix [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ i18n ITS WG 20 Jun 2007 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0054.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-irc Attendees Present Jirka, Felix, Christian, Yves Regrets Chair Yves Scribe Felix Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]action items 2. [6]BP restructuring 3. [7]Reviewing W3C Work or other work for ITS 4. [8]BP discussion 5. [9]next meetings AIs 6. [10]republication of BP draft 7. [11]requirement document * [12]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ action items <scribe> ACTION: Felix to contact JIS people in Japan about possiblity of "ITS as JIS" (DONE) [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action01] Felix: ITS as JIS is a totally different process than ITS as ISO, and not sure if it worthwhile ... propose to close ITS "ISO / JIS etc." for now Yves: agree ... worry about that later <scribe> ACTION: yves to check the whole doc for consistency for "attribute" vs "attribute value" (ONGOING) [recorded in [14]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] <scribe> ACTION: Yves to rewrite the description of example 11 (DONE) [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action03] <YvesS> [16]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht ml [16] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html Jirka mentions a type, Yves will fix that Yves: example shows not how to override s.t., but how to implement overriding facilities of DITA Jira, Felix : looks fine to me <scribe> ACTION: Christian to make a proposal for "4.1.4 Create your XPath Expressions with Care (DONE) [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action04] <YvesS> [18]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht ml#GenXPath [18] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#GenXPath Yves: removed the example with XPath simplification <Jirka> there is typo "the follwing general dimensions" -> "the following general dimensions" BP restructuring Felix: do we want to do it? When would we do it? Yves: let's discuss this next week ... have an AI for everybody for that <scribe> ACTION: everybody to look at BP restructuring, including existing threads on the topic, until next meeting [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action05] <YvesS> [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call [20] http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call Reviewing W3C Work or other work for ITS Yves: nothing new from W3C LC drafts no news on SRX reviews Christian: XLIFF 1.2 is now a committee specification ... next step will probably an OASIS standard Yves: this could need improvement e..g about bidirectionality Christian: past reviews: got reply about EMMA comment ... replier sees an area were ITS fits in, and he will send a reply ... btw, did we hear back from OSCAR people? Yves: just acknowledgement of the comment ... on XForms: we got feedback that ITS would be useful, but they don't have the resource to write the rules ... I have started to work on XForms ITS rules <scribe> ACTION: Yves to continue work on XForms ITS rules [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action06] BP discussion Yves: everybody fine with 3 and 4? [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0 056.html [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0056.html Christian: fine with the proposal from Yves on 3 in 56 mail Yves: think we will see that in many BPs, so it should be in more generic techniques <YvesS> [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0 057.html [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0057.html Yves: for 3 and 4, we have agreement on the current text ... now BP 5 comment from Christian at [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0 057.html [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0057.html <YvesS> [25]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht ml#DevTransOver [25] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevTransOver Yves: common issue for many topics: defaults for a schema, and overriding of ITS rules Christian: could use that for a general section possibly Felix makes some rewriting proposals Jirka: current description of BP is fine with me Yves: BP 5 says not that you should not use its:translate if you have a translate attribute in your schema already Felix: it is indirectly said in: "If you are working with DTD or a schema where there is a way to override translatability information that is not its:translate, you should provide an ITS rules document where you use the its:translateRule element to associate this mechanism to the ITS Translate data category." Yves: proposal: "If you are working with DTD or a schema where there is a way to override translatability information that is not its:translate, you should use it. You should provide an ITS rules document where you use the its:translateRule element to associate this mechanism to the ITS Translate data category." Christian's proposal "If you are working with DTD or a schema where there is a way to override translatability information that is not its:translate, you should use it. In addition, you should provide an ITS rules document where you use the its:translateRule element to associate this mechanism to the ITS Translate data category." Yves, Felix: looks good Yves: "In some cases, the author of a document may need to change the translatability property on parts of the content, overriding defaults or more general rules." "Why to do this" part is very short, but we leave it like that now ... references are short as well ... close BP 5 for now ... now BP 6 input from Christian [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0 058.html [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0058.html Yves: "document your code" should be an aspect of a general technique ... should we put a new BP about that or have that on the generic techniques? Christian: as a new BP? Felix: sounds like a technique to me Yves: we have s.t. like that already about creating ITS rules <YvesS> [27]http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.ht ml#DevITSRules [27] http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevITSRules Felix: rules are just one kind of documentation, there is also e.g. human readable documentation Christian: schema designers first need to describe "what is (not) translatable"? When they need to apply special mechanisms, i.e. ITS rules Yves: so we need to reword BP 14 to include Christian's input <scribe> ACTION: everyone to propose rewriting of BP 14 as discussed in 20 June 2007 meeting [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action07] Yves: back to BP 6 - any other aspect to hink about? ... I need to rewrite the definition of the rule in example 13 <scribe> ACTION: Yves to rewrite the definition of the rule in example 13 [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action08] next meetings AIs Yves: will be 7 and 8 republication of BP draft Yves: everybody fine with publication? RESOLUTION: WG agrees with publication of new BP WG Yves: will post the question to ML, wait for answers until Friday Felix: proposed publication date would be 28 June (next week Thursday) requirement document Yves: any deadline Felix: no deadline. I'd propose to wait with publication until the xml i18n BP WG Note publication Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: everybody to look at BP restructuring, including existing threads on the topic, until next meeting [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: everyone to propose rewriting of BP 14 as discussed in 20 June 2007 meeting [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: Yves to continue work on XForms ITS rules [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: Yves to rewrite the definition of the rule in example 13 [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: yves to check the whole doc for consistency for "attribute" vs "attribute value" [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action02] [DONE] ACTION: Christian to make a proposal for "4.1.4 Create your XPath Expressions with Care [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action04] [DONE] ACTION: Felix to contact JIS people in Japan about possiblity of "ITS as JIS" [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action01] [DONE] ACTION: Yves to rewrite the description of example 11 [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-i18nits-minutes.html#action03] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [38]scribe.perl version 1.128 ([39]CVS log) $Date: 2007/06/20 15:03:16 $ [38] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [39] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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