- From: Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes@stommepoes.nl>
- Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:04:03 +0100
- To: public-html@w3.org
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 01:57:04AM +0200, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 2014-01-13 0:57, John Foliot wrote: ... > >>How would it help to know that there is a map when you cannot see that > >>map? > >Because it is there. You truly seem to be caught up in a very binary "Blind > >versus Can_See_@_20/20" perspective that surprises me Jukka: alt text is not > >just for blind people. > > There is a true dichotomy in the way the alt text has always been > defined: an <img> element is rendered either by presenting the image > pointed to by the src attribute or by presenting the alt attribute > value. Browsers (and authors) have confused this by showing the alt > attribute value as "tooltip", but that was in the past. > > Many authors who have little idea of the meaning and effect of the > alt attributes but some reason for writing them have routinely > written descriptions like alt="Large yellow bullet", instead of > trying to write text that performs the same function as the image. > I'm afraid examples like map alt="Map of Katoomba" are very bad > examples, as they tend to enforce the misunderstanding that authors > are supposed to write alt texts that describe or comment on images. > > There are surely situations where alt="Map of Katoomba", e.g. on a > page that has such a map simply as a content image, like in an > article that tells about the history of Katoomba. It is unrealistic > to expect authors to provide a real alternative text - text that > would be really equivalent to the map should contain a huge amount > of details, in addition to well-written high-level description. The > best we can do (to people who do not see the image) is to announce > the presence of such an image. But when an <img> element is used for > user interface that lets the user select between two or more areas, > either graphically using an image or textually using names of areas, > then the alt text should only contribute to achieving that purpose. So... maybe a better example with less hem-and-haw is needed for this page. Something that can tell an author what they should do, regarding alt text, in a clickable image map. -Mallory
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