Re: indicating subtitles using small

Then I guess it depends on what "de-emphasize" means. Visually? It's not
clear.

On 20 May 2013 17:28, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ian,
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> In the cases cited I think that's the very reason  why it has been used,
> to make it smaller visually and thus de-emphasize it.
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> Regards
> Stevef
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> On 20 May 2013, at 16:17, Ian Devlin <ian@iandevlin.com> wrote:
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> Well the specification currently contains a note that says: "Small print
> typically features disclaimers, caveats, legal restrictions, or copyrights.
> Small print is also sometimes used for attribution, or for satisfying
> licensing requirements."
>
> Such information is important, but using <small> in these cases would
> de-emphasize it, which probably isn't a good thing.
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> On 20 May 2013 16:30, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> OK so there has been continuing discussion on the issue of using <small>
>> in the comments of post about headings and subtitles[1]
>>
>> and mallory[3] pointed out that according to bootstrap [2]:
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>> "For de-emphasizing inline or blocks of text, use the small tag."
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>> While I don't see a case for defining the <small> element as explicitly
>> indicating a subtitle I am partial to the idea of <small> de-emphasizing
>> text
>>
>> This is deemed more important than <small>this</small>, by the author.
>>
>> thoughts?
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>> [1] http://html5doctor.com/howto-subheadings/
>> [2] http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/base-css.html
>> [3] https://twitter.com/stommepoes/status/333196283294658560
>>
>> --
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>> Regards
>>
>> SteveF
>> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
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>> On 9 April 2013 07:33, Angie Radtke <a.radtke@derauftritt.de> wrote:
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>>> Am 08.04.2013 23:30, schrieb Åke Järvklo:
>>>
>>>  Small elements inside headings seems fine to me. I never considered
>>>> this a
>>>> problem until the events leading up to tweets about boycotting Bootstrap
>>>> over this issue started the other day.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think nobody wants  to boycott bootstrap.
>>> It is only a CSS-Framework. If bootstrap-users (devs)  will use small
>>> inside the headlines it is their descion.
>>> The only problem is that it is an example  in the bootstrap docs. So
>>> people with less knowledge will think that this is the right way.
>>> It is not a big deal for the bootstrap-guys to add a class like
>>> "subtitle" to the css-files.
>>> The decision to use small for subtitles comes out of missing
>>> alternatives.
>>>
>>> I wasn't very lucky that Joomla! has choosen bootstrap, because it has
>>> more issues. But now I have to deal with it and I hope we can help the guys
>>> to make it better.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bye Angie
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