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Re: indicating subtitles using small

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:28:05 +0100
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Cc: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
To: Ian Devlin <ian@iandevlin.com>
Hi Ian, 

In the cases cited I think that's the very reason  why it has been used, to make it smaller visually and thus de-emphasize it.





Regards
Stevef

On 20 May 2013, at 16:17, Ian Devlin <ian@iandevlin.com> wrote:

> Well the specification currently contains a note that says: "Small print typically features disclaimers, caveats, legal restrictions, or copyrights. Small print is also sometimes used for attribution, or for satisfying licensing requirements."
> 
> Such information is important, but using <small> in these cases would de-emphasize it, which probably isn't a good thing.
> 
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> On 20 May 2013 16:30, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK so there has been continuing discussion on the issue of using <small> in the comments of post about headings and subtitles[1]
> 
> and mallory[3] pointed out that according to bootstrap [2]:
> 
> "For de-emphasizing inline or blocks of text, use the small tag."
> 
> While I don't see a case for defining the <small> element as explicitly indicating a subtitle I am partial to the idea of <small> de-emphasizing text
> 
> This is deemed more important than <small>this</small>, by the author.
> 
> thoughts?
> 
> [1] http://html5doctor.com/howto-subheadings/
> [2] http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/base-css.html
> [3] https://twitter.com/stommepoes/status/333196283294658560
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> Regards
> 
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1
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> On 9 April 2013 07:33, Angie Radtke <a.radtke@derauftritt.de> wrote:
> Am 08.04.2013 23:30, schrieb Åke Järvklo:
> 
> Small elements inside headings seems fine to me. I never considered this a
> problem until the events leading up to tweets about boycotting Bootstrap
> over this issue started the other day.
> 
> I think nobody wants  to boycott bootstrap.
> It is only a CSS-Framework. If bootstrap-users (devs)  will use small inside the headlines it is their descion.
> The only problem is that it is an example  in the bootstrap docs. So people with less knowledge will think that this is the right way.
> It is not a big deal for the bootstrap-guys to add a class like "subtitle" to the css-files.
> The decision to use small for subtitles comes out of missing alternatives.
> 
> I wasn't very lucky that Joomla! has choosen bootstrap, because it has more issues. But now I have to deal with it and I hope we can help the guys to make it better.
> 
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