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Re: indicating subtitles using small

From: Ian Devlin <ian@iandevlin.com>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:17:22 +0200
Message-ID: <CAOYOhSsB4ytKz1a2Bd_EnOBVSaoM3j5cPXMoOMx7GWgbnxf8FQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: public-html@w3.org
Well the specification currently contains a note that says: "Small print
typically features disclaimers, caveats, legal restrictions, or copyrights.
Small print is also sometimes used for attribution, or for satisfying
licensing requirements."

Such information is important, but using <small> in these cases would
de-emphasize it, which probably isn't a good thing.


On 20 May 2013 16:30, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK so there has been continuing discussion on the issue of using <small>
> in the comments of post about headings and subtitles[1]
>
> and mallory[3] pointed out that according to bootstrap [2]:
>
> "For de-emphasizing inline or blocks of text, use the small tag."
>
> While I don't see a case for defining the <small> element as explicitly
> indicating a subtitle I am partial to the idea of <small> de-emphasizing
> text
>
> This is deemed more important than <small>this</small>, by the author.
>
> thoughts?
>
> [1] http://html5doctor.com/howto-subheadings/
> [2] http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/base-css.html
> [3] https://twitter.com/stommepoes/status/333196283294658560
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
>
>
> On 9 April 2013 07:33, Angie Radtke <a.radtke@derauftritt.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 08.04.2013 23:30, schrieb Åke Järvklo:
>>
>>  Small elements inside headings seems fine to me. I never considered this
>>> a
>>> problem until the events leading up to tweets about boycotting Bootstrap
>>> over this issue started the other day.
>>>
>>
>> I think nobody wants  to boycott bootstrap.
>> It is only a CSS-Framework. If bootstrap-users (devs)  will use small
>> inside the headlines it is their descion.
>> The only problem is that it is an example  in the bootstrap docs. So
>> people with less knowledge will think that this is the right way.
>> It is not a big deal for the bootstrap-guys to add a class like
>> "subtitle" to the css-files.
>> The decision to use small for subtitles comes out of missing alternatives.
>>
>> I wasn't very lucky that Joomla! has choosen bootstrap, because it has
>> more issues. But now I have to deal with it and I hope we can help the guys
>> to make it better.
>>
>>
>> Bye Angie
>>
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