- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:33:58 +0000
- To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+ri+VmF0D_EuCgpPJeCJQVJ3rdfXnyRSBKOSMUA-28O2j6sDw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Silvia, I am not overly keen on the ul > article idea myself, its an experiment, a discussion point, but what it does is illustrate the useful information conveyed by a list structure that is missing from the current recommendation. regards Steve On 25 January 2013 12:15, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote: > My gut feeling says that the second one opens the door to a lot of bad > markup. People will start thinking that other elements can follow this list > pattern, too. I don't think it should be allowed. I'd prefer the explicit > use of list elements, possibly with <article> inside. > Silvia. > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> I have sketched out a few possibilities: >> 1 conservative, 1 less so. >> >> http://www.html5accessibility.com/tests/comments.html >> >> >> regards >> SteveF >> >> >> On 23 January 2013 10:41, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I think the definition of the article element in HTML [1] is overly >>> vague and broad, which leads to intended and unintended use that >>> undermines its usefulness as a semantic construct for users that >>> actually consume its semantics such as screen reader users. >>> >>> For example, the spec promotes the use of article as a container of, >>> well, an article and also for each instance of a comment on an article >>> (example: [2]). >>> Yet there is no defined method of exposing the semantic differences >>> between an article in the common understanding of the term and when >>> used as defined in the broader HTML definition. >>> >>> I suggest that the authoring advice and requirments in regards to the >>> article element need to be reviewed and perhaps modified in light of >>> usage data [4], how the semantics are exposed and conveyed in user >>> agents, issues articulated in articles and blog posts (example: [3]) >>> on how to use it and feedback from users and developers. >>> >>> >>> >>> [1] >>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/sections.html#the-article-element >>> [2] >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/07/tories-laughing-again-deborah-orr >>> [3] http://html5doctor.com/designing-a-blog-with-html5/ >>> [4] http://www.html5accessibility.com/HTML5data/article/ >>> -- >>> with regards >>> >>> Steve Faulkner >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> with regards >> >> Steve Faulkner >> Technical Director - TPG >> >> www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | >> www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner >> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - >> dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ >> Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html >> >> > > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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