- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:26:04 -0400
- To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Cc: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, "Edward O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Frank Olivier <Frank.Olivier@microsoft.com>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>
Hello, All: It seems that people are waiting for me to try and move Issue-204 forward. Allow me, then, to attempt in this email to cut to the core question that still separates the two Issue-204 CPs as I understand it. Can we, or can we not, agree to spec changes for Sec. 7.1 which will take us to a single CP on Issue-204 and avoid the WBS process? The two CPs in question are, of course: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Correct_Hidden_Attribute_Section_v3 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/AllowAriaReferHidden While also suggesting more global author warnings, proponents of AllowAriaReferHidden have recently sought "must" requirements (or perhaps only "should" requirements) on user agents as respects Issue-204: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0128.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0129.html The rationale appears to be that to do so is no less burdensome than to create a11y support for canvas: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0130.html Meanwhile, PF has stated it cannot accept "must" or "should" requirements on user agents in the context of Issue-204: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0156.html Our concerns are broader than any engineering challenge. Rather, they are very much focused on the lack of demonstrated user benefit. Indeed, they also include concern over anticipated user harm. This was reiterated at the recent F2F and is summarised nicely at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0137.html So, since PF cannot accept "must" or "should" requirements on user agents vis a vis Issue-204, can AllowAriaReferHidden accept "may" or "might" language vis a vis user agents? My apologies if this question was not evident from my previous postings. Janina -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina@rednote.net The Linux Foundation Chair, Open Accessibility: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/
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