- From: Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:33:23 +0000
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Minutes --> http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-wg-minutes.html - DRAFT - HTML Weekly Teleconference 09 Feb 2012 Agenda See also: IRC log Attendees Present Sam, adrianba, krisk, Cynthia_Shelly, Julian, Mike, Janina_Sajka, paulc, Radhika_Roy, mjs, Plh, Philippe Regrets Chair Sam Ruby Scribe Adrian Bateman Contents Topics 1.ACTION items due by Thursday, February 9 2.New Issues This Week 3.Items Closed Last Week 4.Items Closing This Week 5.Items Closing Next Week 6.New Calls this week 7.New Surveys this week 8.Decisions this week 9.Task Force Reports - Testing Task Force 10.Task Force Reports - Accessibility Task Force 11.Other business 12.Scribe for next meeting 13.Adjournment Summary of Action Items -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACTION items due by Thursday, February 9 ACTION-207? <trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2012-02-07 -- OPEN <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207 paulc: i think we can close this action item - intent was to double check that proposal was still operative ... chairs are working with WG and Web & TV IG and the chairs will decide when to push to the next step ... i will register this in the action item New Issues This Week rubys: none Items Closed Last Week rubys: none Items Closing This Week rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 11, have none ISSUE-172? <trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- restore <rb> as an optional element -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172 rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 11, have one ISSUE-131? <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131 ISSUE-183? <trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183 ISSUE-184? <trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184 rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 11, have one: ISSUE-179? <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179 Items Closing Next Week rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 15, have one ISSUE-193? <trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193 rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 15, have none ISSUE-194? <trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194 ISSUE-195? <trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195 ISSUE-196? <trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196 ISSUE-197? <trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197 rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 15, have none ISSUE-182? <trackbot> ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182 ISSUE-188? <trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188 ISSUE-189? <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189 rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 15, have one ISSUE-185? <trackbot> ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185 rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 15, have none ISSUE-198? <trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198 ISSUE-199? <trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199 ISSUE-200? <trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200 ISSUE-201? <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201 ISSUE-202? <trackbot> ISSUE-202 -- Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/202 rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 16, have none ISSUE-203? <trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- raised <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203 rubys: important that we get CP for these issues - if we don't get proposals the issues will be deferred to html.next janina: a11y tf thinks issue 203 should be considered after issue 30 ... since one depends on the other ... you need both an alt text and a longdesc for the media element - this is separate from the poster that it may have ... we in good shape on the alt but not on the longdesc because we don't yet know which mechanism we will end up with for that rubys: are you suggesting the deadline moved after? janina: yes, to start after the longdesc question is resolved paulc: are you asking that we don't process 203 before 30 or that we delay calling change proposals <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0098.html janina: delaying change proposals call because the only thing that could be proposed is used longdesc or described by that we're talking about in 30 ... CP will be to apply that mechanism to the video tag paulc: could you write the CP saying using the solution from issue 30 ... then all we have to make sure we don't come to a decision on 203 before 30 rubys: before the deadline? janina: yes ... if that kind of conditional proposal is acceptable then this is reasonable paulc: suggest that you get this into the CP and ask for explicit permission from chairs New Calls this week rubys: none New Surveys this week rubys: none Decisions this week ISSUE-177? <trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0065.html rubys: published decision, editor has applied the change Task Force Reports - Testing Task Force krisk: met as planned last week 31 jan <krisk> Meeting Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Feb/0000.html krisk: no new bugs, some new tests from Ms2ger ... some discussion about the a11y and aria mapping testing and kris will follow-up with cynthia and a11y tf Task Force Reports - Accessibility Task Force janina: very busy, number of change proposals coming is large ... we have a reconsideration request on meta generator ... task force decision on that now Other business rubys: review of issue 30 proposal ... mjs posted review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0058.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0064.html rubys: next up is split issue 30 ... discussion started on the mailing list ... if there are two parts disagreement about whichto do first http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0067.html rubys: discussions ongoing janina: is there agreement on what the 2 parts are? rubys: i think so ... my understanding is the aria question is split out from whether longdesc is deprecated ... active discussion, lots of emails in last 24/48 hours ... Revert request for r6895 ... this has been applied http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0066.html rubys: Saturday is the deadline for change proposals for New Information <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0082.html rubys: this post describes exactly what is needed ... April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0057.html plh: in order to help wg make progress, a f2f would be good ... especially in april for html wg ... now question is dates with conferences we don't want to overlap with ... ended up with second week in april ... we are aware that this is easter monday so some people will have to travel on that day, also end of passover ... unfortunate but unless more objections will continue since only alternative is may ... which doesn't work for html wg timeline ... don't yet have a host - looking for a host ... want to block dates next week and confirm meeting as soon after that as possible rubys: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2012-01-23 - 2012-01-29 http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/01/openweb-weekly-26.html Scribe for next meeting rubys: any volunteers? paulc: my turn to chair next week Adjournment rubys: thanks everybody Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:rubys@intertwingly.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:14 PM > To: announce > Subject: HTML WG telecon 2012-02-09: issue progress, task force reports, > revert request, new information deadline, F2F > > The HTML Working Group will have its usual weekly teleconference on > 2012-02-09 for up to 60 minutes from 17:00Z to 18:00Z. > > http://timeanddate.com/s/27ax > > Tokyo 02:00+1, Amsterdam/Oslo 18:00, London/Dublin 17:00, > New Jersey/York 12:00, Kansas City 11:00, Seattle/San Francisco 09:00. > > Chair of the meeting: Sam Ruby > Scribe: Adrian Bateman > > (See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.) > > == Agenda == > > 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, February 9 > > a) ACTION-207: Confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active > [Paul Cotton] > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207 > > 2. New Issues This Week: > > None > > 3. Items Closed Last Week > > None > > 4. Items Closing This Week > > a) ISSUE-172: restore-rb, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 11 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0044.html > > b) ISSUE-183: enhance-time, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 11 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0040.html > > c) ISSUE-184: data-element, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 11 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0042.html > > d) ISSUE-131: caret-location-API, Change Proposals due Feb 11 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0041.html > > e) ISSUE-179: av_param, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 11 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0045.html > > 5. Items Closing Next Week > > a) ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Change Proposals due Feb 15 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0070.html > > b) ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Change Proposals due Feb 15 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0073.html > > c) ISSUE-195: form-http-req, Change Proposals due Feb 15 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0071.html > > d) ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Change Proposals due Feb 15 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0072.html > > e) ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Change Proposals due Feb 15 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0074.html > > f) ISSUE-182: footnote-recommendation, Alternate or Counter Proposals > due Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0084.html > > g) ISSUE-185: drop-pubdate, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0083.html > > h) ISSUE-188: generic-track-format, Alternate or Counter Proposals due > Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0085.html > > i) ISSUE-189: uri-web-prefix, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0086.html > > j) ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Change Proposals due Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0077.html > > k) ISSUE-199: aria-processing, Change Proposals due Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0078.html > > l) ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Change Proposals due Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0079.html > > m) ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Change Proposals due Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0080.html > > n) ISSUE-202: figcaption-words, Change Proposals due Feb 16 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0081.html > > o) ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Change Proposals due Feb 17 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0098.html > > 6. New Calls this week > > None > > 7. New Surveys this week > > None > > 8. Decisions this week > > a) Working Group Decision on ISSUE-177: ietf-id-wip > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0065.html > > 9. Task Force Reports > > a) Testing Task Force > > b) Accessibility Task Force > > 10. Other Business > > a) Review of the issue 30 Change Proposal: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0058.html > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0064.html > > b) Split Issue 30? > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0067.html > > c) Revert Request for r6895: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0066.html > > d) Saturday is the deadline for change proposals for New Information > requests: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0315.html > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0113.html > > e) April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0057.html > > f) Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2012-01-23 - 2012-01-29 > http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/01/openweb-weekly-26.html > > 11. Scribe for next meeting > > 12. Adjournment > > == Dial-in and IRC Details == > > Zakim teleconference bridge: > +1.617.761.6200 code: HTML (4865) > > Supplementary IRC chat (logged): > #html-wg on irc.w3.org port 6665 or port 80 >
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