- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:31:06 +1100
- To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Cc: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no> wrote: > Silvia Pfeiffer, Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:19:50 +1100: >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: >>> As I pointed out in the change proposal rationale, x-* attributes are >>> unacceptable for use by other standards fora (and W3C WGs) for defining >>> specifications that involve additional A/V parameters. Such usage impedes >>> standardization. >> >> On the contrary. It allows other standards fora to experiment with >> attributes that they believe are necessary and once those attributes >> have been proven to be necessary and widely accepted, they can be >> introduced into HTML by the W3C. > > The two CPs do not make up for the fact that a community could define > an 'applicable specification' which in turn could define attributes > without x-* or data-*.[1] One purpose of the av_param proposal is to > avoid such extra specifications. But why is that important, when the > alternative seems to be de-facto specifications of <param>? And, > despite that the no-change CP discusses the extensibility of HTML5, the > 'applicable spec' option does not get discussion there either. Instead > it seems to assume that x-attributes would/should eventually become > part of HTML5 proper. Well observed - I have added the "extension specification" situation to the no-change CP. It makes no difference, however, since it still means that no change is required. > The two CPs do also not discuss the brand new <data> element, which the > spec describes as sometimes an alternative to @data-*. [2] The <data> > element can be used in microformats, and thus there is an explicit > permission to use <data> in a site independent way. (Unlike @data-*, > for which there only is permission to use with distributed scripts.) Well, yeah, that was even too new to slip through. :-) I'll also mention this in the no-change proposal, even though I am no sure exactly how it can be used yet - e.g. can it be used inside a <video> element? Thanks for noting these. Cheers, Silvia. > [1] > http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/infrastructure#other-applicable-specifications > [2] http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/text-level-semantics#the-data-element > -- > Leif H Silli >
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